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I can't yet see the Smart #5 on our order site but they seem to be having some sort of "launch" webinar so I assume it will be soon. I know they're a different platform but look very like a GLB/EQB in dimensional terms / shape - does that stack in the flesh/metal?
Is that with Arval? I signed up for the webinar on Tuesday, but the Smart #5 are on our list already (no brabus though). Its slightly bigger than the EQB in most dimensions and for what I've tried its far more roomier especially in back/boot. It also had a better finished/comfy interior. I would think there new electric mid SUV to be a big improvement on the old EQB if on a similar platform to the CLA. The models are a bit confusing as only the premium and brabus have full matrix lights, vented seats, heated rear seats, HUD and the sennhouser sound system. Does seem a miss you cant get a normal AWD version with all the toys albeit the summit does have the HUD.
 
I see Honda have a decent on e:NY1 again.

PCP deal - £500 down, £199 a month for 36 months with 8k miles PA, includes 5 years servicing. Also 0% interest on the balance, so even buying it at the end with a GFV of ~£11k doesn't seem too unreasonable.
 
I see Honda have a decent on e:NY1 again.

PCP deal - £500 down, £199 a month for 36 months with 8k miles PA, includes 5 years servicing. Also 0% interest on the balance, so even buying it at the end with a GFV of ~£11k doesn't seem too unreasonable.

Whereabouts is this advertised? My Google skills are failing me.
 
Whereabouts is this advertised? My Google skills are failing me.

Well actually you can get if for £181.99 per month and £500 down, for 6000 miles PA.


Also avialble at most Honda dealers across the UK limited to 800 - once they are sold then price goes up - Metallic Black at this price.
 
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I'd avoid the ENY1 personally unless you had no other option. My dad has the Advance trim, and he is not pleased with it. Can't wait to get rid! It's in negative equity. It's has had a few issues. It refuses to charge on a schedule with Ohme and Octopus. And the range, back in January, was as low as 90 miles on 3/4 charge. Cheap interior too.
 
I'd avoid the ENY1 personally unless you had no other option.

I think at the price for 3 years you'd be hard pushed to find a better car in the same price range. ~£7k for 3 years, no servicing costs.
It refuses to charge on a schedule with Ohme and Octopus.
A schedule form IOG or from the Ohme app or something else?

And the range, back in January, was as low as 90 miles on 3/4 charge.
So 120 miles on 100%? Not sure how it measures predicted range, based on history or current data - but sounds like it is being very pessimistic, I know it doesn't have a heat pump - perhaps it is pretending to be an Etron 55.
 
Is that with Arval? I signed up for the webinar on Tuesday, but the Smart #5 are on our list already (no brabus though). Its slightly bigger than the EQB in most dimensions and for what I've tried its far more roomier especially in back/boot. It also had a better finished/comfy interior. I would think there new electric mid SUV to be a big improvement on the old EQB if on a similar platform to the CLA. The models are a bit confusing as only the premium and brabus have full matrix lights, vented seats, heated rear seats, HUD and the sennhouser sound system. Does seem a miss you cant get a normal AWD version with all the toys albeit the summit does have the HUD.

Yeah Arval but it turns out we don't (currently anyway) get Smart on the list so won't bother with it. GLB as you say will likely be similar enough although Merc told me the other day Q3 until they start to appear or be orderable. If correct it'll be no good to me as I'll put something through this month or at latest April
 
I think at the price for 3 years you'd be hard pushed to find a better car in the same price range. ~£7k for 3 years, no servicing costs.

A schedule form IOG or from the Ohme app or something else?


So 120 miles on 100%? Not sure how it measures predicted range, based on history or current data - but sounds like it is being very pessimistic, I know it doesn't have a heat pump - perhaps it is pretending to be an Etron 55.
Definitely if the deal is key then you'd be hard pushed. But my dad has done about 5k miles and can't wait to get rid. Obviously everyone is different. It doesn't work with IOG. Car refuses to wake for the schedules. Ohme have pushed some updates as well but nothing helps. It has to be done on max charge.

The range is a problem in the cold. It drops rapidly. When it's warmer you'll get near the 200 mark. I don't know what the Etron is like, is it bad? Lol
 
I'd avoid the ENY1 personally unless you had no other option. My dad has the Advance trim, and he is not pleased with it. Can't wait to get rid! It's in negative equity. It's has had a few issues. It refuses to charge on a schedule with Ohme and Octopus. And the range, back in January, was as low as 90 miles on 3/4 charge. Cheap interior too.
Yep. Two mates had them 2yrs ago and don’t like. Really don’t have much about them then and now the worlds moved on 2yrs. Proper vessel of a car that you will putting up with until the end of the deal

They do seem to struggle with efficiency too. But maybe some should avoid recommend cars with no experience of, leaving the owner in some finance trap of a crap car. They are cheap deals for a reason , they can’t shift them
 
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Car refuses to wake for the schedules. Ohme have pushed some updates as well but nothing helps. It has to be done on max charge.
Wonder if it is similar to a few others, where if you have an Ohme you need to also have a schedule in the cars own app to get it to take a charge. I'd try setting the charge schedule from say 17:00 to 05:30 in the car app, then using whatever timing you want in the Ohme settings, that way when the Ohme try to push a charge the car is ready to accept it inside of those hours. Does that make sense?

But my dad has done about 5k miles and can't wait to get rid. Obviously everyone is different.
Yep, that's the thing everyone is different - some will tolerate weird behaviours and suboptimal mileage in certain conditions if they are spending so little for 3 years worth of new car use. I think the last deal this good was the Puma-E some may argue that is a better vehicle, others may prefer the Honda, personally I don't mind as I just wanted to highlight the deal that is there.
 
Thought I’d try an experiment this week. I had three night shifts to do, so couldn’t charge my car in the cheap overnight rate at home. They do have chargers at work, but they charge 25p/kwh (which is actually cheaper than my off peak tariff now)

My EQC isn’t very efficient, and in the reasonably cold weather I was using about a third of the battery to do the 60 mile round trip, giving 180 miles from the 80kwh pack. It’s rubbish, but does me ok.

So, can I do all three nights shifts starting at 100% charge?


Turns out, yes! :cry:

I do live at the bottom of a very big hill which takes some of the anxiety out of it…
 
Wonder if it is similar to a few others, where if you have an Ohme you need to also have a schedule in the cars own app to get it to take a charge. I'd try setting the charge schedule from say 17:00 to 05:30 in the car app, then using whatever timing you want in the Ohme settings, that way when the Ohme try to push a charge the car is ready to accept it inside of those hours. Does that make sense?


Yep, that's the thing everyone is different - some will tolerate weird behaviours and suboptimal mileage in certain conditions if they are spending so little for 3 years worth of new car use. I think the last deal this good was the Puma-E some may argue that is a better vehicle, others may prefer the Honda, personally I don't mind as I just wanted to highlight the deal that is there.
Yeah makes sense mate. I pickup the Smart #5 this week so I just hope that works ok. My dad is going to sell the ENY1 and just use mine when needed. So hopefully no more hassle with charging schedules. :)
 
So my search for an EV is back with BMW, looking at the i4. I really like the BYD Seal but I feel like an i4 M50 would suit me better (albeit a used one). I have some concerns over the Polestar 4's software which puts me off a bit.

Typically I'd prefer an i5 or even i7 but the extra cost doesn't seem worth it and a smaller car would actually be useful these days, my 7 Series can be annoying in car parks sometimes.

I know the eDrive 40 handles a bit better and has a better range, but the M50 isn't much more money.

Anyone have one?
 
My mates got an M50, it was on special offer with the NHS scheme, so it's got no extra packs etc on it. He likes it, does around 15k miles a year in it. He does prefer my i5 M60 though, but then again it's got pretty much every optional extra on it so feels a lot more luxurious than his.
 
So my search for an EV is back with BMW, looking at the i4. I really like the BYD Seal but I feel like an i4 M50 would suit me better (albeit a used one). I have some concerns over the Polestar 4's software which puts me off a bit.

Typically I'd prefer an i5 or even i7 but the extra cost doesn't seem worth it and a smaller car would actually be useful these days, my 7 Series can be annoying in car parks sometimes.

I know the eDrive 40 handles a bit better and has a better range, but the M50 isn't much more money.

Anyone have one?
Look carefully at the options. They change what's in the packs between pre and post lci.
After the refresh they took out stuff that was standard on a pack and made it a stand alone optional extra.
 
So my search for an EV is back with BMW, looking at the i4. I really like the BYD Seal but I feel like an i4 M50 would suit me better (albeit a used one). I have some concerns over the Polestar 4's software which puts me off a bit.

Typically I'd prefer an i5 or even i7 but the extra cost doesn't seem worth it and a smaller car would actually be useful these days, my 7 Series can be annoying in car parks sometimes.

I know the eDrive 40 handles a bit better and has a better range, but the M50 isn't much more money.

Anyone have one?
Having had a P4 up until the end of last year I'd not be overly worried about the software. The last version they released that I used had dealt with pretty much every issue I had experienced since having it, carplay worked fine, full pilot pack was good, apple key worked etc. The only thing I will say is the car is very very wide which makes it a pain to park.
 
So my search for an EV is back with BMW, looking at the i4. I really like the BYD Seal but I feel like an i4 M50 would suit me better (albeit a used one). I have some concerns over the Polestar 4's software which puts me off a bit.
not into kia ev6 ? .. someone around here has a white one I now see regularly and with the colour the uglty boot shape seems more discrete, liveable
(other than that practicality of a saloon hatch too, 800V, rwd, maybe the meridian audio)
 
Look carefully at the options. They change what's in the packs between pre and post lci.
After the refresh they took out stuff that was standard on a pack and made it a stand alone optional extra.

I'm used to buying BMW's so am familiar with the LCI changes, as well as the other random changes they seem to do. I noticed the i4 gear selector changed late 2023.

Having had a P4 up until the end of last year I'd not be overly worried about the software. The last version they released that I used had dealt with pretty much every issue I had experienced since having it, carplay worked fine, full pilot pack was good, apple key worked etc. The only thing I will say is the car is very very wide which makes it a pain to park.

I wasn't too worried about the software issues, and hopefully they can be fixed OTA. Parking is a bit of a negative though as you say.

not into kia ev6 ? .. someone around here has a white one I now see regularly and with the colour the uglty boot shape seems more discrete, liveable
(other than that practicality of a saloon hatch too, 800V, rwd, maybe the meridian audio)

I'm sure they're a good car but I'm not particularly keen.
 
towards Q3 this year, I'll be in the market for a new EV. My AWD EV6 will be 4 years old, and I've taken a big hit in terms of value, but have enjoyed the car a lot.

Current short list is the BMW ix3, the new merc GLC and the new XE60. Am keen to see a full on-road review of the merc, and I think those are coming out in the next week or so.

I like some of the tech in the merc, in particular merc put a LOT of research into their lights, and the GLC apparently has the next gen matrix system. What I don't like about the merc is the entire dash-is-a-screen thing. But to get some of the things I want (high end lights, HUD), you need to go premium and that means the hyperscreen, including an entirely pointless (for me anyway) passenger infotainment screen. Also the merc does look a big "blingy". Merc is also in the mix because of the option to have air suspension and I quite like the notion of the rear wheel steering to aid parking, turning circle.

The BMW apparently has a bigger real world range, but I also don't like the look if its rather "quirkly" dash, I'm wondering how practical that info screen embedded below the windscreen is in real life.

The XE60 is in the mix too, but I haven't full researched it.

Thinking strongly for the first time about private leasing instead of purchasing. As I enter full retirement in the next 12-months, I think having monthly payments might work better than having to find a large lump sum every X years. Also, having been spoiled with the KIA 7 year warranty and a dealer literally 5 mins from my house, I'm not keen on running a car passed it's warranty life, given how much tech is in all thiese cars. Leasing in theory also gives a bit of a buffer from potential depreciation.

But leasing is an entirely new field for me, so will have to give it a lot of thought.
 
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