EV - Public Charger Usage

Yeah did a 2000 mile road trip in an ICE this summer.

But have sold it now, going down to the EV only so suspect our public charging is going to go way up
 
FerretBoy said:
Only Scotland is outside of my range on the mainland, I generally fly there.
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Really? To avoid using a public charger you'll need the range to get there and back - is that what you mean? Even living right in the Midlands there must be loads of places in England you can't get to and from without charging on a public charger?
 
England? I went to Disneyland Paris a few weeks ago. Quite enjoyed it as a trial. Also been Edinburgh and Helston down in Cornwall.
 
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VincentHanna said:
Don't any of you travel long distances? I've had holidays in England that were further away than the maximum range of my car.

Or do you have access to ICE cars for those types of trips?
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Did an entire trip up through the Lake District, up the west coast of Scotland to Fort William, and back through mid-Scotland, down the North East coast, and back to the midlands in 2020 about a week after getting the Ioniq, not many public chargers compared to now, well over 1000 miles covered had no issues at all. Also been right down to Land's End etc. and around Cornwall, but that isn't really that much of a challenge given the 200+ mile range of the car, means only a short volt and bolt when you are due for a pee stop.

I reckon used public chargers around 6/7 times in 2022 so far, but I have made use of the 3-pin at family/friends, and also at a camp site thus negating the need for more public charging than necessary. Also use free ones at Tesco/Lidl/Shopping Mall etc. if there happens to be a space, and it's a main shop not just grabbing a few items.
 
[TW]Fox said:
Really? To avoid using a public charger you'll need the range to get there and back - is that what you mean? Even living right in the Midlands there must be loads of places in England you can't get to and from without charging on a public charger?
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My statement is correct. Although if I need to return on the same charge then my range is indeed halved.

If I know I am going a long way then destination chargers play a role in where I choose to stay.

That said I don't really holiday in the UK, visiting relatives always gives access to three pin plugs, just need to visit for more than one night or I have use a public charger. That accounts for one of the two public charges in the last 6 months.
 
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If destination charging was ubiquitous, I’d have needed significantly less rapid charges over the last 6 months. Particularly on all the longer trips I did where you can arrive on ‘fumes’ and then recharge to full for the return trip.

Basic destination charging is the key to unlocking EVs for the masses, not rapid chargers that get all the air time.

Even getting 8 mph back on a 3 pin is very handy if overnighting somewhere.
 
In the last 6 months:
Occasions: 29
Total kWh: 184.4
Total time: 30.5 hours

None of the charges were an inconvenience - I just plug it in when I park up to go shopping.
 
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b0rn2sk8 said:
If destination charging was ubiquitous, I’d have needed significantly less rapid charges over the last 6 months. Particularly on all the longer trips I did where you can arrive on ‘fumes’ and then recharge to full for the return trip.

Basic destination charging is the key to unlocking EVs for the masses, not rapid chargers that get all the air time.

Even getting 8 mph back on a 3 pin is very handy if overnighting somewhere.
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I was thinking that when we went on holiday a month ago up to the lakes, it was about 170 miles so if we had an EV and i'd have brought a long enough extension cable and just charged up with a 3 pin at the holiday home so we'd have been fine in any modern EV as we were just pottering around when we were there.

Just need the dosh for a modern EV now and i'll be sorted!
 
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I don't have the specifics but I'd say between 5-10 times at paid public charges and many, many more times at the free ones at tesco.

As a % of overall miles done at public chargers, its around 10% of the 22000 miles we've done in the EV.
 
What are we classing as public charger, all? I'd say if you are traveling a decent distance, I.e. we went from Hull to late district earlier this year and I think I used a supercharger 3 or 4 times in one week. Without that we couldn't have managed as I couldn't charge easily where we were staying. Having destination chargers is nice, but not many places outside of supermarkets and leisure centres have them which does make it a bit tricky. The places I'm taking the kids too are the ones I'm thinking of that don't have any. It does take a bit more planning, were going to do hull to Yorkshire wildlife soon, and I just need to remember to charge the night before.
 
Yeah I wasn't really thinking of destination chargers or free charging whilst shopping. Was really considering the reality of the inconvenience of fast charging and the fact that I need it so rarely.
 
I can see the bigger inconvenience being that ad the supercharger network is opened up to none teslas, will they appear on the map when you plan in a route. I was under the impression that qhen you set one as a destination the car reserves a spot so somebody else can't charge in it, or at least its factored into routing. Hope that makes sense.
 
Tesla will divert to a diff supercharger if one is too busy automatically. You would imagine it does a little load balancing, i.e. I've had it take me to earlier empty superchargers rather than later busy ones, but no proof.

But you can just turn up ofc, without using navigation, just like non-teslas. Providing they keep putting in such large charging locations then opening to everyone is a no brainer. Also avoid anti competition rulings.
 
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FerretBoy said:
Tesla will divert to a diff supercharger if one is too busy automatically. You would imagine it does a little load balancing, i.e. I've had it take me to earlier empty superchargers rather than later busy ones, but no proof.

But you can just turn up ofc, without using navigation, just like non-teslas. Providing they keep putting in such large charging locations then opening to everyone is a no brainer. Also avoid anti competition rulings.
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These Schroedingers satnav/routing algos do my nut in lol. Can never prove they've worked or not on any given journey.
 
FerretBoy said:
Tesla will divert to a diff supercharger if one is too busy automatically. You would imagine it does a little load balancing, i.e. I've had it take me to earlier empty superchargers rather than later busy ones, but no proof.

But you can just turn up ofc, without using navigation, just like non-teslas. Providing they keep putting in such large charging locations then opening to everyone is a no brainer. Also avoid anti competition rulings.
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That's what I assume happened on long trips but the previous poster has me questioning that now.
 
theone8181 said:
That's what I assume happened on long trips but the previous poster has me questioning that now.
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I think that does happen, we are just conflating 'reservation' with 'avoid busy stations' maybe?

I thought Tesco allowed reservation... I mean it kind of does... The app basically says you've got 15 mins to hook up.
 
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