EVE online

[Alphane]

No skill points are set when spent I'm afraid.

As to career choices, my general advice would be learn how to run missions as no matter what career path/s you eventually choose to persue you will need 'standings' with an npc corp.

Missions though do come in diffrent flavours (mining, security, courier) .

If it's the careers guide I'm thinking of it does seem to imply most players are specialists, from my experience this isn't true.

Traders may haul and do industry too.

Mission runners may do a little industry to make some cash, or may do it to fund PvP activities.

A lot of it is mix and match.

If you want to do a little research I think the 'Isk vol 1' pdf is proberbly one of the most thourough overviews available.

Also note the Ofiicial forum is a troll infested sewer and doesn't in my opinion represent the game well at all.

 

[Alphane]

I so want to like Eve, but OMG I subbed a few times & never got into it. It is a massive bore to be in, point, click & wait, if the control system was action based, then things would be great. I think it is funny saying skill matters in a point & click game. If you had to aim to hit, that would be something.

You know to be honest I found that at first but as I advanced to level 2 and 3 missions the game becomes more challenging and involves a fair bit of stratergy (how to fit your ship for various types of encounters) and tactics (what to agro, and what to do once you have agro, when to stand and when to run).

So while early encounters are fly there, click, kill, fly home. The missions do become more challenging and there are a lot of more challenging types of gameplay than simple mission running.

 

[AHarvey]

i may sub for 1 month after SWTOR runs out, see if I can make a enough to start paying for subs, see if I can get in to it again.

 

[PinkFloyd]

Also note the Ofiicial forum is a troll infested sewer and doesn't in my opinion represent the game well at all.

It can be bad, but I'd say it is no worse than any other game specific forum I've been on. Battlefield 2's used to be horrendous!

 

[Alphane]

Can't say I play any FPS but as far as MMO forums I've frequented over the years go EVE is the worst IMO

 

[VaderDSL]

The forums are pretty dire, but as PinkFloyd says, no worse than many other forums.

Some sections are good but there is a lot of detritus in there.

 

[Fenris]

Can't say I play any FPS but as far as MMO forums I've frequented over the years go EVE is the worst IMO

The problem is that in most MMO's the worst you are likely to experience is some 12 year old 4chan browsing wanna be troll with nothing better to do with his time than whinge about his class isn't the best, in EVE you have career sociopaths so utterly nihilistic I'm not even sure they are aware other people actually exist, whose entire purpose in life is to make other peoples lives a misery "because they can" and who declare any kind of criticism of their choice of play as "tears" from "carebears".

EVE embodies choice, sadly it is a rather good example of how if left to their own devices, human beings are really rather horrible.

 

[AHarvey]

yeah, it's an adult MMO and as such, has far bigger and anal geeks than any other and when you combine that with the anonimity that comes from being behind a monitor it maks a lot of them giant ass-hats!

 

[Alphane]

The forums are pretty dire, but as PinkFloyd says, no worse than many other forums.

Some sections are good but there is a lot of detritus in there.

Ok fair enough I'll concede some of the subforums ain't too bad, like market disscusion or science and industry, still a fair sprinkling of trolls there though.

 

[quickshot89]

The problem is that in most MMO's the worst you are likely to experience is some 12 year old 4chan browsing wanna be troll with nothing better to do with his time than whinge about his class isn't the best, in EVE you have career sociopaths so utterly nihilistic I'm not even sure they are aware other people actually exist, whose entire purpose in life is to make other peoples lives a misery "because they can" and who declare any kind of criticism of their choice of play as "tears" from "carebears".

EVE embodies choice, sadly it is a rather good example of how if left to their own devices, human beings are really rather horrible.

i love playing in a sandbox that is eve

 

[Fenris]

i love playing in a sandbox that is eve

Yes, a sandbox in which you must be careful when reaching in to pick up any of the many, many toys encase you accidentally close your hand around a slimy recently ejected turd.

 

[ElliorR]

As much as I enjoyed 5 years of EVE I'll never be going back. It really needs dedication to get the mst out of it. When my corp lived in Feythabolis I was the POS manager and it was pretty much a full time job. Was great fun when Curse alliance and friends tried to take our space and we repelled them with relative ease. When the Goon blob came, with Curse et al cowering behind Goons coat tails, we lost our space.

Oh and a new EVE thread deserves the bestest graph of all time

 

[No1newts]

When the Goon blob came, with Curse et al cowering behind Goons coat tails, we lost our space.

What is happening to the Goons these days?

Last I heard they were getting a kicking?

 

[quickshot89]

What is happening to the Goons these days?

Getting fat from tech moons would be the answer

 

[Rroff]

What is happening to the Goons these days?

Last I heard they were getting a kicking?

Last I saw they were dropping fleets of 400 arty maelstroms on anything that looked at them funny.

Null is a joke tbh - the real game is in wormhole space atm where a big fleet is 30 guys who know what they are doing and daring to use a capital doesn't result in mass cyno drop/super capital escalation.

 

[PinkFloyd]

Don't forget no free intel from local in wormhole space too

 

[Alphane]

What is happening to the Goons these days?

They just finished there 'Ice interdiction' - shooting defencless miners mining ice

Soon to partake in 'Hulkageddon 5' - shooting defencless miners flying hulks

 

[Kosmiche]

I wouldn't say eve has a high learning curve in so far as learning the mechanics of the game, the interface and so on.

Its just learning how to play effectively and how to play the market that might be hard to grasp for some people, but the same can be said for any mmo.

 

[No1newts]

It is a game I want to play and I know you could get something out of it playing casually but I would want to play it hardcore as it is that good, but I can't afford the time so I would rather not bother

Pity I didn't get into this when it was released and I had free time

 

[Edward78]

Yes, a sandbox in which you must be careful when reaching in to pick up any of the many, many toys encase you accidentally close your hand around a slimy recently ejected turd.

Nasty dude. Wait, STO doesn't have a point & click system right? So EvE could do it.