Extension, architects and the process in general.

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Anyone help or general ideas of having an extension done.

We like the house and area we are in but moving house is not going to be worth moving for what we want.

At the side of the house we have big enough driveway for a garage underneath and new large master bedroom. (That's the idea anyway)

It's going to need a architect, planning permission etc. Any clues on the process and how these people charge ?
 
We've literally just gone through this for our main home. We were going to go for permitted development but we're actually went the planning route as we're hoping to do a little more to the house as a result.

First step is to understand if you can afford it. As a general rule depending on where you are it's around £2,000 per square meter (perhaps that's a little over but again it depends) - though this doesn't necessarily include fittings/finishing.

You then need to find an architect to help you visualise the extension, and tell you what is / isn't possible on the budget you have. i.e. "if I can afford £100k extension, can I do a 1 storey 10 square meter extension"? They will also help you understand planning requirements. You'll have to understand where your boundaries lie, any shared drainage, tree preservation orders, any conservation laws you have etc... Also worth checking out the planning portal for your neighbours and see if anyone else has had any extensions.

The architect will do the drawings to submit to the planning team of your council (they'll probably visit your house), this is an iterative process and you can start to view how your house will look, and think about the layout / design of it. Then the architect will need to provide building regs for the council too - but these drawings are what you can give to the builders to give you quotes. Both the design drawings and the building regs and planning application combined cost around £1-1.5k.

Once planning is approved, you then need to think about finding a builder, but at the same time, what you want inside. i.e. what finishings etc... If you can have a list of "must haves" it makes it a lot easier to get an accurate quote, but also I'd hold back 10% for contingency as things sometimes happen. Think about the internals, such as, radiators, power, windows, access to the rooms, external and internal finishing, lighting etc... all these things need to be thought through and can be a bit of a mind bender. It's easier once you have the drawings as you can print them off and draw on them / measure things to understand how it'll all piece together.

You then have to think about whether or not your house will be liveable in when the work is being done, or whether you will need to crash at in-laws or something.

It can be quite overbearing but if you plan everything and prepare everything it does become more manageable.
 
We’ve found in London most architects operate on a % of build cost fee for refurbishment/extension (10-12%) from start to finish. A lot also offered a feasibility phase on a fixed cost basis to take a brief and provide options on layouts and how to phase based on costs/budget etc.

That’s a turn key service where they take you through the RIBA design process including tendering for contractors and then help manage the build (noting the builder is responsible for the actual delivery). For us, we’ve gone that route as despite being more expensive it reduced the amount of project management we’ve had to do.
 
Ours finished fairly recently. Everything went swimmingly apart from one neighbours objection which amounted to nothing in the end.

We got an architect (circa 2k) and structural engineer (circa 1k) talking to get the plans drawn up. Then got some quotes from several builders.

We left all the planning permission bits to the architect. Left all the planning visits from building services to the builder (we used a private company (PWC) rather than council cost about £500)
 
As above really... currently at the structural engineering stage...

Architect was onboarded through local recommendation - we chose local which was important to us, as they came around and physically inspected the space and took lots of notes before the designers did their thing.

Structural engineer was recommended by the architects - they are not local but that does not bother us as they are only working virtually anyway, no mention of physical site visit.

We've already at this stage engaged with one builder to get an approx. cost in case we needed to go back to the drawing board, also to see if they believe anything is not possible based on the design and reality of our house - everything was fine (at least for now) in that respect.

It's a veeeeeery long process, much longer than I expected it would be - you could imagine not being ready to even start work for 9-12 months, and then having 6 months of work commencing after that.
 
As a chartered Quantity Surveyor (yep I'm the boring git at parties) and working for one of the largest construction consultancies in the UK, we've had an internal email asking us to be more diligent on our client's construction projects to watch for signs of impending insolvency on contractors and sub-contractors. Seems we're bracing for more contractors to go bust. Hate to use the cliche, but we're in a perfect storm of rising costs of materials due to brexit, the pandemic and general shortage of labour, this is putting huge pressures on existing projects and afflicting new projects. Admittedly we work on large scale projects but this does still affect domestic builders also.

So my advice is make sure you do enough due diligence on any builder you intend to use, or get the designer, architect or PM company (if you engage the services of one, which I personally would as it does give you some peace of mind) to carry out due diligence to ensure solvency of your builders. Be wary of the lowest cost, especially if its significantly lower than others and any builder suggesting they could start immediately as they are normally warning signs (not always but any agency working on your behalf should be looking for this anyhow).

If using a agency (designer or architect and/or project management consultancy), get them to create a schedule of work based on their design and get the builders to price off that. It means that if you do need to adjust the contract price you can target specific items, if you don't and take a lump sum approach based off drawings without a detail schedule of works then you could be at the mercy of the builder when negotiating cost reductions/changes without a decent breakdown of their price. I used an agency that specialises in domestic extensions or refurbishments that dealt with the design, planning application, procurement and project management of the whole process which I paid maybe £1.5k max (to be fair I did use them as they were disability specialist and I needed to ensure the extension was adapted enough for my wheelchair bound son and we had the benefit of discounted rates for materials and the like).

Also make sure you have a contingency pot of cash for any unknown risks - most of the risk is in the substructure, if you're digging down for foundations there is a reasonable chance you might come across problems (once you're out of the ground the risks are much less), we did on our kitchen extension, our road's storm and foul drains run in our back gardens (don't know why) and the run was not even straight, they ran diagonally from my neighbour on the right to my neighbour on the left, and directly across where our foundations were going. We had to re-route the drainage (with the right permissions and checks from the Council) as we couldn't build over the drainage runs. There was no manhole covers to tell us this or even existing schematics, we had some idea that they could be there but we only found them once the builder started excavating the ground.

As your not looking to move its unlikely to be an issue, but if you're on a relatively new estate check your deeds to see if there is a need to get permission from the original developer (I had this on my kitchen extension a few years ago) you can ignore it but you would need to take out insurance if selling the house in later years. And keep everything safe (planning approval consent, all test certificates and completion certificates) once all finished.

And I agree on the timescales - easy 18-24 month process.

And good luck - its hard work, painful on the pocket and very stressful, however once its all done I'm sure you'll be more than happy and enjoy the extra space.
 
Thanks all, sound advice, it has convinced me to do as little as possible and just pay for a dedicated start to finish service with the architects running the show and we just throw money at people as and when required.

Bit galling being a design engineer myself i could bash out the plans easily enough or get a minion to do at least :)
 
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