Extra 45bhp at the push of a button

Nitro_Junkie said:
its simple!

fact it says race mode is easily good enough for another 40hp, it lights up for another 5hp

if 45hp extra is the difference between economy and exhilarating performance, then you're either in a 2cv or got more to worry about than a shiney switch, like the fact you just lost 25hp cos your sun strip fell off


Buy one for your dragster - easy win every time :>
 
Jez said:
I doubt there is anyone here that doesnt already know this.

Thats a little far fetched since most of motors doesn't know how to change a lightbulb / disks and pads.....

Anyways, perhaps the VAG systems are diff, i'm not sure if your talking about a full on remap or just wacking in more fuel and leave the rest to it, quite frankly i don't care anymore.
 
Firestar_3x said:
Thats true but it doesn't change the map most stock ecu's cant, until W O T its not using any maps as such just base values and the realtime data.

FIAT have been letting ECU's correct their own ECU maps for years now. As have ALL the real players.

Only thing they can't change is the mixture to aim at.


My Dads 156 even has control of the Ignition timing.

When he switched to Super Unleaded it detected that it wasn't pinking enough and advanced it right to the edge of pre-ignition. Thus more power and more noise, just by using higher octane fuel.
 
We are just talking tricking the ECU into pumping more fuel into the system. The car doesnt actually know this is happening and thus nothing else is adjusted.

It results in more power in a lot of vehicles as they do not inject as much fuel as needed for optimal power as standard.

Anyway, its pointless harping on about it, as i said my post was merely to correct paradigm who posted that tricking the car into running richer produces naff all gains, when this is not true for a lot of vehicles.

End of discussion & back on topic.
 
Jez said:
We are just talking tricking the ECU into pumping more fuel into the system. The car doesnt actually know this is happening and thus nothing else is adjusted.

It results in more power in a lot of vehicles as they do not inject as much fuel as needed for optimal power as standard.

Anyway, its pointless harping on about it, as i said my post was merely to correct paradigm who posted that tricking the car into running richer produces naff all gains, when this is not true for a lot of vehicles.

End of discussion & back on topic.

Hello?

Lamda Probe

Detacts unburnt hydrocarbons in the exhaust, to calculate the actual mixture the car is running at.

If said mixture is too much it backs the ECU map off.
 
Well it obviously doesnt work or doesnt apply here, as manually overfueling by too much results in the car running incredibly rich and producing a lot of smoke. The car makes no attempt to change the fuel mixture on its own.
 
Jez said:
Well it obviously doesnt work or doesnt apply here, as doing it too much results in the car running incredibly rich and causing smoke screens. The car makes no attempt to change the fuel mixture on its own.

Cheap ones do give you a gain in power untill it's had toime to adjust.





The Proper ones are chips which go between the ECU and ALL sensors.

And Constantly feed the ECU the correct Lambda Probe Values. But boost the Fuel between ECU and injection system.

Unless the car is being held between 2k and 3k RPM for 1 min without any road speed (Only happerns during MOT), then it goes to standard. And gives you your performance boost back next time you hit 30mph.
 
BigglesPiP said:
Cheap ones do give you a gain in power untill it's had toime to adjust..

Mines obviously rather slow then ;) Its taken 65,000 miles and counting and still hasnt adjusted by itself whatsoever, strangely enough no-one else's cars seem to adjust on their own either.

Thats the last reply to this thread from me, while you are without a doubt correct for some vehicles, what you sare saying certainly does not apply to them all.
 
Jez said:
Mines obviously rather slow then ;) Its taken 65,000 miles and counting and still hasnt adjusted by itself whatsoever, strangely enough no-one else's cars seem to adjust on their own either.

Thats the last reply to this thread from me, while you are without a doubt correct for some vehicles, what you sare saying certainly does not apply to them all.

Agreed :D What is it out of interest? It obviously can't fiddle it's ECU Map.
 
Jez said:
Dont see what difference it makes as the engines are same, but this one happens to be a Seat Leon.

AFAIK THe Leon (Depends on version) is a VW, but without VW engines. I can see their ECU's not self mapping.
 
BigglesPiP said:
AFAIK THe Leon (Depends on version) is a VW, but without VW engines. I can see their ECU's not self mapping.

Dude, i am a huge car geek. I know what engine's my cars use. :p
 
L0rdMike said:
My car overfuels enough as it is. Could always do with bigger flames out the exhaust though I guess. :p

It can't do Mike, its TurboCharged. By impossible logic it must therefore run lean. ;)
 
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