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Eyefinity gets owned by NVIDIA Surround
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You will have me take out my 5870 unpack the 5970 to do some benchmarks that we all know what a 5970 will perform like in...here check youtube out 
http://www.youtube.com/user/arvutihull#p/u/342/sNGa3-tT3TI
http://www.youtube.com/user/arvutihull#p/u/342/sNGa3-tT3TI
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Nvidia owners, you guys are the best, you did the right thing by buying nvidia product, god loves you more than ati owners and you all just awesome
Shhh, ati guys, its the only way to shut them up, play along.
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Can't say thats 'owned', by looking at the price difference, the time it took nVidia to launch and the fact I'm not buying a GPU again i'd say that was pretty even.
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Time has nothing to do with it. All the cards are current and are out to buy now. What has you buying a new gpu got to do with the review or the performance balance of these cards.
If you look at the benchmarks you will see nvidia has higher frames and most of the time AA applied.
Thats because most people don't notice it
When a game is in motion and I'm concentrating on playing it, I don't notice AA or AS at all! Admittedly my screen is quite small though.
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Thats because most people don't notice it
When a game is in motion and I'm concentrating on playing it, I don't notice AA or AS at all! Admittedly my screen is quite small though.
I do think screen size does play a part in noticing AA as does the type of game.
Benching top end cards at 4xAA or no AF on a review is very poor especially if the card scores are well over 60fps. One of the benefits of a top end card compared to a mid range card is the handling of AA, yet most reviews always neglect this.
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460 is between 5830 and 5850, 470 is between 5850 and 5870
overclocked 460 = 5850, overclocked 470 is extremely debatable over where it goes, some say = 5870, some say = 480, some say between 480 and 5970
@RavenXXX2, since they used fraps to get results, the results are instantly inaccurate, also doesn't help they called the in game benchmark inaccurate too seeing as the in game benchmark takes actual fps to the ms usually and fraps uses apparent fps to about 100ms which can be far from actual fps and is usually out 3fps or more, worst case scenario I've seen is 150fps out, best 1fps.
overclocked 460 = 5850, overclocked 470 is extremely debatable over where it goes, some say = 5870, some say = 480, some say between 480 and 5970
@RavenXXX2, since they used fraps to get results, the results are instantly inaccurate, also doesn't help they called the in game benchmark inaccurate too seeing as the in game benchmark takes actual fps to the ms usually and fraps uses apparent fps to about 100ms which can be far from actual fps and is usually out 3fps or more, worst case scenario I've seen is 150fps out, best 1fps.
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If you look at the benchmarks you will see nvidia has higher frames and most of the time AA applied.
Given how much more power it uses and how much more it costs over a HD5870 thats kind of the least I would expect.
Nobody denies the GTX480 is a faster card overall but comparing the two is like comparing a Walrus to a Polar Bear.
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Time has nothing to do with it. All the cards are current and are out to buy now. What has you buying a new gpu got to do with the review or the performance balance of these cards.
If you look at the benchmarks you will see nvidia has higher frames and most of the time AA applied.
Well Nvidia have had a year ? longer to work on the card. So it's reasonable to think that extra time would show extra performance.
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The frame rates seem to range from unplayable to erm... more unplayable. Granted ATI's are a little more unplayable than Nvidia's so maybe that extra R&D was worth that wait
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So what card you running? a 5770 ?
This is what baffles me, ATI zealots go on about performance, but when they start to loose that battle then they jump to the i am taking my ball home answer of yeah but what about the temperature and heat. Surely if the person who wants a faster card is ok with the heat/noise blah blah then it is irrelevant?
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Round 1. Fight!
LoL, you got them the wrong way, Nvidia is the fat, sweaty and hot walrus, ATI the lean, cool polar bear.
LoL, you got them the wrong way, Nvidia is the fat, sweaty and hot walrus, ATI the lean, cool polar bear.
Hehe, Lies Lies!
On a side note i would not fancy been the walrus
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Not anymore, prices drops on the HD5870 made it to much of a tempting buy although the GTX460 looked like a good deal as well and I was tempted but I'm also looking at a multiple video card setup in the future however my PC can't do SLI so I spent a bit extra and went with the high end Radeon solution.
As for heat and noise the two are inextricably bound since 99% of us use air cooling the more power a card uses the hotter it gets and the harder the fan has to work to remove the heat. Plus if the cooler is one of those that doesn't chuck it out the back it's left in your case making everything else hotter which maybe a problem for overclockers. I don't have a problem with heat pae-se infact it the winter time it's welcome but what I can't stand is noise. For soem it's fine and they can put up with it but others like myself who are sensative to noisy fans it's a problem.
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Indeed. Most ati users who complain about the noise and heat of Fermi cards own a 5770.
Yes I have used Fermi based cards. Over priced, hot, power hungry with underwhelming performance and six months too late to make any sort of impact on lowering ATI price's.
The raw performance of the GTX480 was my biggest disappointment. It should have had offered at least HD5970 performance IMO.
The GTX480 needs to draw getting on for double the power of a HD5870 resulting in a small performance advantage. If ATI used similar size core they would have been twice as fast. People "complaining" (discussing) about these issues is fully understandable IMO, and certainly not down to ignorance on the forum. So no, I don't agree with you no that point, heat, power, cooling and noise levels don't have to be massive issues when buying a high end card, Nvidia just messed up with Fermi and that's just the hard truth.
The movement in sales is down to the fact ATI have been building better cards and selling more as a result. I think it was 8-9 million to nil on the DX11 front alone. Before that the 4890 was giving the GT200 cards hell.
The GTX470 on special offer is only just now making Nvidia competitive, but only on the price-performance front, its no great bargain IMO. I just see it as an option to the HD5850.
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I own a 4870, but its kind of a well known fact about the nvidia cards. People who dont have problems are either using water to cool, have very low temperatures all round or are just lying.
I think its pretty pathetic the way nvidia users are acting, we are just saying that you cant directly compare the products because the cost is different. You dont compare an i7 and an i5 and say it owns it, it might do but also costs more.
Nvidia users just seem adament that their cards are 100% perfect with 0 flaws and apparently cant accept that.
Ati users will accept nvidia is faster, but you need to pay more for the cards and generally have a hotter and noiser card as well.