Eyefinity gets owned by NVIDIA Surround

[MoRT489]

I would have loved to get a card that could do 32xAA or more however, i was only willing to shell out for one gfx card to run my three monitors and the only way to do that was the 5870. If nvidia find some way in the future to run 3 monitors on one card i will buy from them if the price/performance is right as I prefer their drivers but for the moment as i'm on SKT775 it would mean a new CPU/MOBO/RAM and 2 GFX cards to go green and for the slight increase in frames it just wouldnt be worth it.

 

[laptop1967]

Your comment was flawed because it would be silly for someone to buy 480 if they personally did not like the issue of extra heat,noise & power draw so of course your going to get more comments from ATI users about it because it may of been the extra heat,noise that made them buy the ATI card over the 480.
So in your eyes because they went & bought the ATI because of those issues they have no right to bring them up on the 480.

I never said people bought ATI cards because of the heat,noise and power, i stated that you can't critize a card that you don't own, when the people that do own one arn't complaining about it!!,

and most of the complaints about the 480 was before anyone could really get their hands on one, and they were from mostly ATI users, it just seems like sour grapes to me, whereas i've no reason to make negative comments about ATi cards, ive nothing against them!!

 

[Razor Time]

I would have loved to get a card that could do 32xAA or more however, i was only willing to shell out for one gfx card to run my three monitors and the only way to do that was the 5870. If nvidia find some way in the future to run 3 monitors on one card i will buy from them if the price/performance is right as I prefer their drivers but for the moment as i'm on SKT775 it would mean a new CPU/MOBO/RAM and 2 GFX cards to go green and for the slight increase in frames it just wouldnt be worth it.

A very good and valid point. I would have done the same thing in your situation.

I think you understand what I am trying to get across. Everyone's requirements are different and you took the correct path to compliment your needs and system/setup.

 

[Razor Time]

and most of the complaints about the 480 was before anyone could really get their hands on one, and they were from mostly ATI users, it just seems like sour grapes to me,

I have noticed this as well. Its a bit sad really as we all enjoying gaming and all share the same passion for performance pc's.

I never care who makes my hardware, all I care about is that it performs as expected.

 

[laptop1967]

I have noticed this as well. Its a bit sad really as we all enjoying gaming and all share the same passion for performance pc's.

I never care who makes my hardware, all I care about is that it performs as expected.

+1, i agree, i wonder how many people have been put off buying a really good gaming card because of inaccurate comments, i was a bit wary myself when my Zotac 480 arrived, but i thought they wouldn't give you a 5 year warranty if it was gonna crash and burn

i noticed quite a jump from my overclocked 260, and as you've already said it was no different from my previous gpu's for heat,noise and power, and it wont be long before a new card comes along

 

[RavenXXX2]

What puts people off is the panning fermi got from the review sites, a card that came seven months after the competition, is not much better than the competition yet is more expensive, runs hotter and consumes more power than ATI's DUAL GPU 5970, now do the math. Go to most review sites now, they still recommend the 5870 over a 480, so blaming ATI owners for the stick fermi gets is just lol, go spam the tech sites that gave ATI the nod over nvidia this generation.

 

[laptop1967]

What puts people off is the panning fermi got from the review sites, a card that came seven months after the competition, is not much better than the competition yet is more expensive, runs hotter and consumes more power than ATI's DUAL GPU 5970, now do the math.

yea yea heard it all before, i'm happy with mine as are other 480 owners and nothing we say will change the continual same old comments from you lot!!,

you started this topic by the way!!

 

[Razor Time]

+1, i agree, i wonder how many people have been put off buying a really good gaming card because of inaccurate comments, i was a bit wary myself when my Zotac 480 arrived, but i thought they wouldn't give you a 5 year warranty if it was gonna crash and burn

i noticed quite a jump from my overclocked 260, and as you've already said it was no different from my previous gpu's for heat,noise and power, and it wont be long before a new card comes along

Spot on. I am looking forward to seeing what ther 6000 series will bring to the table in terms of features and graphical power.

What puts people off is the panning fermi got from the review sites, a card that came seven months after the competition, is not much better than the competition yet is more expensive, runs hotter and consumes more power than ATI's DUAL GPU 5970, now do the math. Go to most review sites now, they still recommend the 5870 over a 480, so blaming ATI owners for the stick fermi gets is just lol, go spam the tech sites that gave ATI the nod over nvidia this generation.

Let me correct you there a 480 uses less power than a 5970 (294w vs 250w) and runs about the same temp.

As for the review sites which sites included benchmarks with 16xAA or 32xAA. Most sites benched with 4xAA which is useless to me and many others when buying a top end gpu. The gap grows between the 5870 and 480gtx in fermi's favour once the AA is ramped up. Most sites I read said that the 480 was faster, had better dx11, had physx, 3d, better minimum frames. Yes they panned it for being late to the party and rightly so Nvidia messed up big time on their projected release date and kept many hanging on. They also mentioned heat and power but if you actually look at the figures its no different or to previous gen temps. 4c higher running temps is nothing on a top end rig with decent cooling.

How is posting info on tech spaming a forum. Surely ocuk is an enthusiasts site and the more correct info the better. Or would you prefer all posts on Fermi to be answered with it uses more heat and power?

Incidentally do you realise your overclocked 5870 uses about the same power and runs with in a few degrees as a stock Fermi and it still cant do 32xAA, TRSAA, Physx, 3D and has weaker DX11 performance. But this is considered fine?

 

[Razor Time]

you started this topic by the way!!

LMFAO.....


What also makes me laugh is that this thread is about multi gpu and multi screen gaming performance and the terms heat and power are banded about as if that would be a major priority for someone looking for an ultimate gaming setup. How much excess heat and power do they think a multi gpu/display setup uses?

Performance is suddenly ignored, even though it is the main focus of the article.

 

[laptop1967]

LMFAO.....


What also makes me laugh is that this thread is about multi gpu and multi screen gaming performance and the terms heat and power are banded about as if that would be a major priority for someone looking for an ultimate gaming setup. How much excess heat and power do they think a multi gpu/display setup uses?

Performance is suddenly ignored, even though it is the main focus of the article.

lol i know, ironic isnt it, show you of a review of how good gtx 480 sli is, then tell you not to buy it!! lol,

well its too late, raven shouldnt of posted it, i want to add another one now

 

[Squakingcow]

Let me correct you there a 480 uses less power than a 5970 (294w vs 250w)

Unfortunately manufacturers specs for TDP are more often than not quite far out..
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The 480 uses about 10-20w more under load than the 5970.

 

[MoRT489]

hmm if those power consumption tables are to be believed i could safely run 2x 5870 on my current HX620...might try it

 

[Squakingcow]

I believe that the consumption chart from TPU is only the power consumption of the graphics card, but the other two are for the system as a total.

Still, you probably could get away with 2 5870s, people often vastly overestimate the power requirements for their PCs, a decent 400w PSU could probably power most single GPU systems (bar GTX 480s or perhaps a highly OC'd 470).

 

[Echo]

...when one 5870 manages 5040x1050 perfectly fine!!

@30fps and no AA :s

 

[Final8y]

I never said people bought ATI cards because of the heat,noise and power, i stated that you can't critize a card that you don't own, when the people that do own one arn't complaining about it!!,

and most of the complaints about the 480 was before anyone could really get their hands on one, and they were from mostly ATI users, it just seems like sour grapes to me, whereas i've no reason to make negative comments about ATi cards, ive nothing against them!!

Yes you can criticise a product that you don't own when the criticism is based on known facts.

It would be very silly for most of the criticism to come from 480 owners as i would say why the hell did you buy a product that known to have issues that your not happy with.

Its your choice if you have nothing negative to say about ATI both have there bad sides & i have already said i don't care about the issues of that card as it would be under water anyway, just the facts.

 

[RavenXXX2]

Let me correct you there a 480 uses less power than a 5970 (294w vs 250w) and runs about the same temp.

Unfortunately manufacturers specs for TDP are more often than not quite far out..
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The 480 uses about 10-20w more under load than the 5970.

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I don't need corrected.

The fact you go on NVidia's rather embarrassing TDP value and not the actual power draw shown on tech sites, says a lot really.

Enjoy the vids

 

[Stanners]

You ATI Zealots really are something, Lets get a couple of things straight.

1) Fermi runs hotter than ATI
2) It uses more power than its ATI equivalant

There you go, pat yourselves on the back and move along. It is pathetic how in every performance thread the same old comments come out.

So come on show us what your super cool lower power consuming ATI rigs can do and post some benchmarks.

 

[Freddie1980]

You ATI Zealots really are something, Lets get a couple of things straight.

1) Fermi runs hotter than ATI
2) It uses more power than its ATI equivalant

There you go, pat yourselves on the back and move along. It is pathetic how in every performance thread the same old comments come out.

So come on show us what your super cool lower power consuming ATI rigs can do and post some benchmarks.

I can could go one better and show you how good Fermi could have been IF it were as efficient as Evergreen/Crypress.

 

[Stanners]

Crypress.. Like it

(I do like a good typo)

 

[MoRT489]

@30fps and no AA :s

No AA in Metro yes which is a shame but in newer games this is less noticeable. The main game i'm playing at the moment is BC2 with all settings on high, 2xAA, Bloom and HBAO off @ 5348x1050 (bezel management) and i get between 40-60fps. The only time it dips below 40fps is on atacama desert if it gets really smokey but it never drops to a level that is unplayable. I can turn off the AA and gain an extra 20fps but i prefer the extra eye candy rather than the slight improvement in performance, which tbh isnt noticeable to me but i understand fps can be very subjective.

Metro is unplayable at 5040 DX11 but is fine in DX10, and at 1680x1050 can whack on all the DX11 eye candy, of course I would love to add a second card for more but waiting under the 5870 hits around the £220 mark. I have found that a lot of modern games are perfectly playable with between 35-45fps so the magic number 60Hz for vsync isnt so important to me.

Would love to get some benchmarks up but at the moment i'm on my laptop and in my spare time i tend to play the games rather than watch them. If i get some time at the wknd i'll be happy to post some but they wont be in fancy tables or bar charts i'm afraid.