F1 good for Pirelli???

[dannyjo22]

Another weekend another bunch of crtitism from drivers and teams on the tyres. I personally think Pirelli have been given the poison chalice. Everyone wanted more tyre wear due to it working once at Canada.

I've heard lots of general comment from very casual F1 watchers on how **** Pirellis are.

This can not be good for the company and Pirelli are continually having to respond with how they are just building tyres that F1 wanted.

If I was in charge of Pirelli in f1 I'd want out tbh or atleast a tyre war again.

Would you want to see another tyre war?

 

[dannyjo22]

Guess I called it again....



A tyre war improves show when the different tyres have different strengths without one dominating all season long. If you have a situation like 2005 (where one tyre is so far ahead of the other that anyone on the weaker tyre doesn't even stand a chance without something extraordinary happening) then it all falls apart.

Yeah that's when I didn't want a tyre war, when one team was so far ahead. What about a tyre war where you have Goodyear, Bridgestone, Pirelli and Michelin etc, with the teams being able to choose race by race who they want to use?

After all Goodyear and Bridgestone were not happy that it was zero competition.

 

[dannyjo22]

I don't see what the problem is, Pirelli was given a task by the FIA and they for filled the objective. Personaly there is no problem, Iv seen more action this year so far than the decade just passed, lots of action on track, and what I realy like is the drivers having a 2nd think about going of line to overtake. Basicly Pirelli have done an amazing Job, people just need to look at it in a less serious manner then they will understand that this is going to be epic!

I agree to an extent, I'm looking at it from the manufacturers point of view with the driver critising the tyres at any opportunity. That's not very good advertising for them and they keep having to defend their tyre with the remit they were given to make the tyres.

I feel sorry for them.

 

[dannyjo22]

Meh, tyre wars just lead to everyone blaming the tyres. At least at the moment everyone has the same chances with their tyres.

The skill is to build a car and drive a car in such a way that you can get the optimum performance from them. And that's exactly the skills I want to see.

I don't want to see the skills of Bridgestone or Pirelli or Dunlop in chemically engineering a synthetic rubber that'll make the planet turn the other way.

But that's just another element in a series that isn't equal anyway. You are already watching a series where one driver is handicapped because his designers never came up with a flexi wing, or an engine that has enough power or reliable enough etc etc.

Atleast with a tyre war a midfield team picking the right tyre for the weekend can give them a result. The trouble before was Bridgestone built them for ferrari and screw everyone else.

 

[dannyjo22]

Yes but what I'm saying is allow 3 or 4 tyre manufacturers in and let the teams choose which tyre they want race by race. Fridays coulod be a decent tyre testing day and the 3rd driver could actually be useful and gain some experience.

Just an idea, your reasoning is sound and part of why I disliked the last tyre war. I just really dislike this forced wear. I preferred multiple manufacturers going as soft as they dare in relation to wear and speed.

 

[dannyjo22]

Yeah I suppose you're right.

 

[dannyjo22]

Pirelli need to maintain the rate of wear as requested of them and reduce marble size. .

How can they reduce the marble size, people are saying fist sized chunks. It's not fist sized chunks coming off the tyres. Small pieces are getting worn away and near the racing line they must be being compressed to make bigger chunks.

I really cannot see fist sized chunks of rubber coming from tyre and them be able to maintain any kind of pace.

You either live with it if you want the wear rate or give them less rubber to wear down til they hit a canvas strip to destroy grip. Obviously no one wants that so short of making a harder compound and having half distance runs again not a lot will change.

 

[dannyjo22]

It will also increase overtaking because cars will be varying weights and on different strategies.

Come on, it's not like there was ever much overtaking on the track when they had sprint races with fuel stops. Oh look there's MS in 3rd. The other two pit, MS pumps in 3 fast laps, MS comes out in the lead.

Rinse and repeat for 80 race wins.

Everyone waited for the stops, Hell MS shadowed a BAR at Barcelona for about 30 laps waiting for pitstops rather than attempt a pass. It happened all the time.

Until they address the aero not a lot will change.