Fan controller

[doyll]

I was trying to be helpful, but you seem to think it is not your responsibility to research and understand the product before buying it, but the manufacturers' fault. I call this kind of thought process 'professional victim'. Everything is someones' fault. Get drunk and caught driving and blame it on car maker, brewery and publican.

No mention of CPU fan header specs. .. in fact no mention of what motherboard or what the fan header pinout is.

2nd and 3rd posts suggest returing the fans.

Buy fans without even knowing what size fits radiator.

EDIT: Of course if you'd read the thread before jumping in, you'd have known all that.

How about you read your manual and study up on what you are doing before you feel so sorry for yourself and blame all your screw-ups on everyone else?

You manual shows all headers and what their pinout is on page 26 & 27.

It's time to grow up and take responsibility for your own actions.

 

[Lufferov]

I was trying to be helpful, but you seem to think it is not your responsibility to research and understand the product before buying it, but the manufacturers' fault. I call this kind of thought process 'professional victim'. Everything is someones' fault. Get drunk and caught driving and blame it on car maker, brewery and publican.

No mention of CPU fan header specs. .. in fact no mention of what motherboard or what the fan header pinout is.

2nd and 3rd posts suggest returing the fans.

Buy fans without even knowing what size fits radiator.


How about you read your manual and study up on what you are doing before you feel so sorry for yourself and blame all your screw-ups on everyone else?

You manual shows all headers and what their pinout is on page 26 & 27.

It's time to grow up and take responsibility for your own actions.

Oh really? Because I just looked at pages 26 & 27 of the manual. Where does it show me that they aren't PWM headers? It still shows them as 4-pin with all 4-pins connected. I think it's fair to assume from the image that CPU_FAN and SYS_FAN1,2&3 are 4-pin PWM and SYS_FAN4 is a constant 12v.

I suppose you suggest everyone who wants to build a PC should have a degree in electronic engineering. To complicate matters further the manual CLEARLY mentions the fan speed control can be set to PWM.

Also, who genuinely inspects the manual in quite that much detail before they buy the product? I've never read a manual for ANYTHING before I've bought it. I look at the technical specifications sheet sure, but the manual?!

I would suggest you climb down from your high horse and realise that in the real world people don't have the time for the sort of stuff you're saying.

Yes I made a mistake buying the wrong size fans initially. That's on me, I'll take that one. But as for the rest of it... come on, really?

 

[doyll]

Oh really? Because I just looked at pages 26 & 27 of the manual. Where does it show me that they aren't PWM headers? It still shows them as 4-pin with all 4-pins connected. I think it's fair to assume from the image that CPU_FAN and SYS_FAN1,2&3 are 4-pin PWM and SYS_FAN4 is a constant 12v.

I suppose you suggest everyone who wants to build a PC should have a degree in electronic engineering. To complicate matters further the manual CLEARLY mentions the fan speed control can be set to PWM.

Also, who genuinely inspects the manual in quite that much detail before they buy the product? I've never read a manual for ANYTHING before I've bought it. I look at the technical specifications sheet sure, but the manual?!

I would suggest you climb down from your high horse and realise that in the real world people don't have the time for the sort of stuff you're saying.

Yes I made a mistake buying the wrong size fans initially. That's on me, I'll take that one. But as for the rest of it... come on, really?

YES, REALLY!!

THE HEADER PINOUT CLEARLY SHOW WHAT EACH PIN DOES.

ONLY ONE HEADER HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH PWM OR SPEED CONTROL ON PIN-4.

NOT AT ALL FAIR TO ASSUME ANYTHING!
SPEED CONTROL IS JUST WHAT IT SAYS
VCC IS NOT SPEED CONTROL .. OR THEY WOULD HAVE LABELED THAT PIN SPEED CONTROL!!

USERS WHO HAVE LEARNED WHAT TO EXPECT READ THE MANUAL AND ASK QUESTIONS OF OTHERS WHO HAVE THE SAME MOTHERBOARD .. SOMETHING YOU DID NOT DO!

MY 'HI-HORSE' IS BASED ON KNOWLEDGE FROM YEARS OF USE AND WORK!!

THE REAL PEOPLE WORLD!!

YOU NEED TO CRAWL OFF YOUR TINY LITTLE HOT AIR, SELF-ENTITLED, SPOILED HORSE .. (PROBABLY A RESULT OF PEOPLE ALWAYS TAKING CARE OF YOUR NEEDS) AND REALIZE HOW THINGS REALLY ARE!!

IN THE 'REAL WORLD' WE ARE EACH RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR OWN ACTIONS .. AND IF WE MAKE A MISTAKE IT'S OUR MISTAKE AND NOT SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT!!

THIS IS HOW IT REALLY IS IN THE 'REAL WORLD' WITH 'REAL WORLD PEOPLE' !!

YOUR WORLD IS DEFINITELY NOT THE WORLD REAL PEOPLE LIVE IN !!

I WILL NOT REPLY AGAIN UNLESS YOU RESPOND LIKE NORMAL PEOPLE DO WHEN THEY NEED HELP.

 

[Lufferov]

I WILL NOT REPLY AGAIN UNLESS YOU RESPOND LIKE NORMAL PEOPLE DO WHEN THEY NEED HELP.

Thanks, that's good to know, I don't need help from people like you. I would like to genuinely thank Disco_P, Frank Jeagar and haszek who have all offered helpful and useful advise. Sadly Doyll just appears to be a jerk.

 

[D1craig]

by a cable that allows all fans to be plugged into the same header. thats what i have done.

fan splitter cable or something.

EDIT - that guy needs to get a grip if something tells you it can do something you believe it... you dont go around asking everyone else can this really do that? it says it can be controlled by intervals such as 0.75 pwm in the manual and in the BIOS so why would he question or look further into this?

 

[Lufferov]

by a cable that allows all fans to be plugged into the same header. thats what i have done.

fan splitter cable or something.

Don't think that will help will it? None of my system fan headers are PWM. I guess I could hook them up to the Kraken and just let all fans run at the same speed based on the CPU temp. That's probably not a bad idea actually... or is it?

 

[Tealc]

Using CPU to control all fans is a good idea as typically if that gets warm then you need extra cooling everywhere. The only exception would be your GPU which ideally needs its own cooling profile.

Gigabyte are pretty bad when it comes to fan control. I even have a 5v fan header on my motherboard for some reason. I suppose it's cheaper to have one type of connector on your bill of materials.

 

[D1craig]

Don't think that will help will it? None of my system fan headers are PWM. I guess I could hook them up to the Kraken and just let all fans run at the same speed based on the CPU temp. That's probably not a bad idea actually... or is it?

there is no reason why you cant have the splitter plugged into the cpu (the only actual PWM) header. i have all my fans (im watercooled btw) plugging into the cpu header and they obviously change by cpu temps. works great.

the splitter i got has a molex connector on it so it doesnt suffer any voltage loss or something along them lines. 4 fans.

Using CPU to control all fans is a good idea as typically if that gets warm then you need extra cooling everywhere. The only exception would be your GPU which ideally needs its own cooling profile.

Gigabyte are pretty bad when it comes to fan control. I even have a 5v fan header on my motherboard for some reason. I suppose it's cheaper to have one type of connector on your bill of materials.

yes and the motherboard i have doesnt even support speedfan. itx gaming one it is z170 cant rember exact name.

 

[doyll]

Using CPU to control all fans is a good idea as typically if that gets warm then you need extra cooling everywhere. The only exception would be your GPU which ideally needs its own cooling profile.

Gigabyte are pretty bad when it comes to fan control. I even have a 5v fan header on my motherboard for some reason. I suppose it's cheaper to have one type of connector on your bill of materials.

The potential problem with this is when running something that is GPU intensive, but not CPU intensive. While most applications are either CPU or both CPU & GPU, there are some that are mostly GPU.

 

[Lufferov]

Using CPU to control all fans is a good idea as typically if that gets warm then you need extra cooling everywhere. The only exception would be your GPU which ideally needs its own cooling profile.

Gigabyte are pretty bad when it comes to fan control. I even have a 5v fan header on my motherboard for some reason. I suppose it's cheaper to have one type of connector on your bill of materials.

Thanks for this, I think I'll give that a try. The Kraken X61 has 4 fan headers that will do PWM so I can connect my two intake fans at the front and let CAM control them with with PWM. It should also balance the airflow a bit better as they will be working together.

The one on the back can just stay connected to a voltage controlled header because that's the only one that I've not changed for a new ML fan. I'll set that to a slow speed and just leave it on tick-over.