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locutus12 said:
i cant help but see this as child abuse, your opinion ?

click me, watch and dispair.

The Children seem fairly happy.

'Warriors for Jesus' is a term to stand up for who you are in todays age, not to go killing people.

The sad thing is, we see camp and we see warriors, then it must be bad? If they are not burning bus shelters and mugging old ladies then teaching them something else with a few different values surely can't be bad.
 
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KaHn said:
Sorry " I am an atheist", take this how you will.

KaHn

I think cleanbluesky might have been referring to the irony in the fact that both are empty vessels or at least that was what amused me.

Spacky said:
The Children seem fairly happy.

'Warriors for Jesus' is a term to stand up for who you are in todays age, not to go killing people.

The sad thing is, we see camp and we see warriors, then it must be bad? If they are not burning bus shelters and mugging old ladies then teaching them something else with a few different values surely can't be bad.

The children didn't seem particularly unhappy at least, apart from when they were 'weeping for salvation' but that doesn't automatically make it a good thing.

'Warriors for Jesus' can be interpreted in more than one way, both the children and the pastor refer to people dying for god and the pastor mentions that she wants Christians with belief similar to those who are in a jihad.

No, a camp and warriors isn't inherantly bad any more than a gun is inherantly bad, it is what you do with it. A camp could simply be a place to give children a bit of focus and fun or it could be altogether more disturbing. It is the different values they are being taught that is important, if they don't go round mugging old ladies but they, say, take the destruction applied to the metaphorical government and apply it to the real thing, I'd then have to opine that it was a bad thing and certainly not the sort of values to instil into children. Please note I have no great love for government(small or large G) but teaching people to have no respect for them strikes me as a rather dangerous path to go down.
 
semi-pro waster said:
lots of typing

I didn't hear the Jihad bit but the problem with the reference is it could be to have a strong passion for something not flimsy values hence the 'like jihad'. It doesn't mean forcing values on others with bomb belts and ak47s.

As some may know Al-Qaeda don't just have a gripe with the west. In afghan, Afghan christian villages are exterminated by Al-Qaeda training groups. These are things heard first hand from people in the area. Who say "So and so village 40 miles from here was wiped out by Al-Qaeda".

What am saying is martyrdom nowadays is different in Islam as it is different iin Christianity this could be how the media also drum things up as well but then the americans don't do themselves any favours.
 
semi-pro waster said:
I think cleanbluesky might have been referring to the irony in the fact that both are empty vessels or at least that was what amused me.

Nah, I just thought it was retarded that you could teach a kid anything by writing 'government' on a cup
 
Spacky said:
The sad thing is, we see camp and we see warriors, then it must be bad? If they are not burning bus shelters and mugging old ladies then teaching them something else with a few different values surely can't be bad.

The natural mode of children is not to burn bus shelters if they are not being religiously inoctrinated, it is not either/or. I think the most objectinable part of the video is that the children are receiving a very unorthadox education, and education is important.
 
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