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Fastest single core 939?
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El Jimben said:
Exactly. To the OP why is a dual core "messing" around? When you're playing games you won't need to faff around, and in fact it'll be quicker as Windows is always in the background using resources. So even if a game is single core only the other core is free for windows, if you're ripping/encoding in the background, on another HD game speed is exactly the same.
Just get a 3800 X2 or Opteron 165 and clock it.
If your mobo's up to it you'll get to 2.7-2.8 easily with a decent air cooler.
My old 165 clocked to 2.95ghz on air and cost me about £70.
You could probably get one for £50-£60 second hand these days - it's a far better solution than simply banging in a better single core.
Also, you may find that your present single core will clock close to the speed of the average overclocked 4000+ so it wouldn't be much of an upgrade at all!
Just go dual core!
gt
If your mobo's up to it you'll get to 2.7-2.8 easily with a decent air cooler.
My old 165 clocked to 2.95ghz on air and cost me about £70.
You could probably get one for £50-£60 second hand these days - it's a far better solution than simply banging in a better single core.
Also, you may find that your present single core will clock close to the speed of the average overclocked 4000+ so it wouldn't be much of an upgrade at all!
Just go dual core!
gt
the fastest your likely to find is the 4000+, this is 2400mhz with 1mb L2. if your lucky you might find an FX57 which is 2600mhz with 1mb L2. to get more, you will have to oc. 2.8ghz is a safe bet without troube on almost any 4000+, i dunno much about fx57's sadly.
dual core wise, its the 4800+ (2* 2400mhz/1mb) which is gold dust or the FX60 (2* 2600mhz/1mb) which is gold dust and diamond expensive!
dual core wise, its the 4800+ (2* 2400mhz/1mb) which is gold dust or the FX60 (2* 2600mhz/1mb) which is gold dust and diamond expensive!
I'm running an Opteron 146 @ 2.2Ghz (too lazy to try higher) but the board will take the X2 4800+ no problem, I just happen to think given that I play a lot of Battlefield 2 still that I don't want to be worrying about affinity problems I just want the system to work.
Maybe I'll go duel core then, what would be the most cost effective upgrade chip at the min from mine?
Whoop
Maybe I'll go duel core then, what would be the most cost effective upgrade chip at the min from mine?
Whoop
Whoop said:I'm running an Opteron 146 @ 2.2Ghz (too lazy to try higher) but the board will take the X2 4800+ no problem, I just happen to think given that I play a lot of Battlefield 2 still that I don't want to be worrying about affinity problems I just want the system to work.
Maybe I'll go duel core then, what would be the most cost effective upgrade chip at the min from mine?
Whoop
There is no affinity problems.
1 - Install new dual core
2 - Boot into Windows and install the dual core driver from www.amd.com and then install the dual core optimiser also from www.amd.com
3 - Enjoy your new CPU
Thats it, easy
Put it this way.
you could get any X2... even the worst clockers and they'd still do 2.4ghz per core which is faster than what you presently have.
Just get a 3800 or Opty like i said above and you'll be hunky dory!!!
It makes a massive difference.
I went from a 3000+ @ stock (1.8ghz) to a 3700+ @ 2.6ghz and didn't notice much improvement. Then i went from the 3700+ to a 3800 X2 (also @ 2.6ghz) and the difference was absolutely massive!
Believe me and the others when we all say you will not regret it one little bit!
Just make sure to get back to let us know what you think!
gt
you could get any X2... even the worst clockers and they'd still do 2.4ghz per core which is faster than what you presently have.
Just get a 3800 or Opty like i said above and you'll be hunky dory!!!
It makes a massive difference.
I went from a 3000+ @ stock (1.8ghz) to a 3700+ @ 2.6ghz and didn't notice much improvement. Then i went from the 3700+ to a 3800 X2 (also @ 2.6ghz) and the difference was absolutely massive!
Believe me and the others when we all say you will not regret it one little bit!
Just make sure to get back to let us know what you think!
gt
Even if you do a heavy process in Windows (encoding) you'll notice it. I have 4400x2 and 3700, both the same speed, and the 3700 is a slug once I'm encodng. Basically unusable. I can encode and continue without any slow down on the dual core. In fact I usually encode two, open EAC twice, rip/encode two different albums at the same time (two optical drives)
Forget doing that on a single core.
Forget doing that on a single core.
At stock it will be as fast as my old 3700 as both have 1mb of cache and are both 2.6ghz parts. (With mine overclocked of course!Antx777 said:Just for the record, FX57 is 2800, FX55 (one i have) is 2600. I think my FX-55 will be faster than most non fx cpus in games, not sure.
)My opty which could do 2.95ghz and had 1mb of cache for each core would beat a stock FX55 with only one core enable and trounce it (in multitask and certain 'dual core' optimised game scenarios) with both activated.
They were excellent chips and god knows i wanted one. But as they were £570 at the time i had to take the poor mans route and get the 3700 for £160. At the time they could clock to and just above FX55 speeds and some would reach stock FX57 speeds and more. Wonderful price/performance ratio at the time!
Shocking though when you consider that i spent that identical amount on my e6600 recently!!!
gt
sorry xD
my bad.
ok - aprox performance order for each cpu red are OCUK stock + price. upto you to pick to match your wallet and preference. hope this helps
Multitasking/Dual core aware app's (i assume losing 512K cache is worth -50mhz/core and 100% eficiency using 2 cores)
100% 3700+ = 2200/1mb £45
109% 4000+ = 2400/1mb £59
118% FX55 = 2600/1mb
127% FX57 = 2800/1mb
177% 3800+ = 2*2000/2*.5mb
195% 4200+ = 2*2200/2*.5mb £141
200% 4400+ = 2*2200/2*1mb
214% 4600+ = 2*2400/2*.5mb
218% 4800+ = 2*2400/2*1mb
236% FX60 = 2*2600/2*1mb
Single Tasking
89% 3800+ = 2*2000/2*.5mb
98% 4200+ = 2*2200/2*.5mb £141
100% 4400+ = 2*2200/2*1mb
100% 3700+ = 2200/1mb £45
107% 4600+ = 2*2400/2*.5mb
109% 4800+ = 2*2400/2*1mb
109% 4000+ = 2400/1mb £59
118% FX60 = 2*2600/2*1mb
118% FX55 = 2600/1mb
127% FX57 = 2800/1mb
if your not gonna oc, and you are really set on no dual core, the 4000+ is a bargin. but also a fairly miserable 9% boost from what you have (i set the 3700+ as 100% as it matches your opty, near as makes no diference)
a nice FX55 or 57 from members market, or some other sourse is more preferable if price is good
looking at dual core, the 4200+ is almost (2% less) as fast as what you have, but offers much more potential in the future. finding a FX60 for a good price is best bet here. but a 4800+ is more likely.
so, 9% boost from the 4000+ (and a very probable oc to FX57+ speed)
or a -2% to 95% boost from the 4200+ (and a good chance it will clock to fx60+ speed) - 4200 wins my vote
my bad.
ok - aprox performance order for each cpu red are OCUK stock + price. upto you to pick to match your wallet and preference. hope this helps
Multitasking/Dual core aware app's (i assume losing 512K cache is worth -50mhz/core and 100% eficiency using 2 cores)
100% 3700+ = 2200/1mb £45
109% 4000+ = 2400/1mb £59
118% FX55 = 2600/1mb
127% FX57 = 2800/1mb
177% 3800+ = 2*2000/2*.5mb
195% 4200+ = 2*2200/2*.5mb £141
200% 4400+ = 2*2200/2*1mb
214% 4600+ = 2*2400/2*.5mb
218% 4800+ = 2*2400/2*1mb
236% FX60 = 2*2600/2*1mb
Single Tasking
89% 3800+ = 2*2000/2*.5mb
98% 4200+ = 2*2200/2*.5mb £141
100% 4400+ = 2*2200/2*1mb
100% 3700+ = 2200/1mb £45
107% 4600+ = 2*2400/2*.5mb
109% 4800+ = 2*2400/2*1mb
109% 4000+ = 2400/1mb £59
118% FX60 = 2*2600/2*1mb
118% FX55 = 2600/1mb
127% FX57 = 2800/1mb
if your not gonna oc, and you are really set on no dual core, the 4000+ is a bargin. but also a fairly miserable 9% boost from what you have (i set the 3700+ as 100% as it matches your opty, near as makes no diference)
a nice FX55 or 57 from members market, or some other sourse is more preferable if price is good
looking at dual core, the 4200+ is almost (2% less) as fast as what you have, but offers much more potential in the future. finding a FX60 for a good price is best bet here. but a 4800+ is more likely.
so, 9% boost from the 4000+ (and a very probable oc to FX57+ speed)
or a -2% to 95% boost from the 4200+ (and a good chance it will clock to fx60+ speed) - 4200 wins my vote
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Amonlym said:
Thats a really good post and I'm glad I haven't bought one of the X2 3800+ that have been going recently on the MM
Thank you for that and I shall definitely look much higher up the scale as I had a feeling this opty wasn't as weak as it sounded.
Whoop
If you plan to overclock then a second hand and guaranteed high clocking low end X2 or Opty is what you'd want.
As i said earlier - i picked the opty up for £70 and when i sold it on as a decent clocker i let it go for £110.
You might pay a slight premium but it's worth it as i find nothing worse than getting a chip that won't budge much past stock!
Second hand 3800 X2's are going for £50 or so which is excellent - and about £9 cheaper than the brand new 4000+ mentioned above (don't buy new!).
Most clock between 2.5 and 2.6ghz with ease so that should really be your first port of call.
Once they're clocked that high what you have is effectively quiet close in performance to an FX60 for about 1/6 the price!
Make the smart decision and buy cheap but decent!
gt
As i said earlier - i picked the opty up for £70 and when i sold it on as a decent clocker i let it go for £110.
You might pay a slight premium but it's worth it as i find nothing worse than getting a chip that won't budge much past stock!
Second hand 3800 X2's are going for £50 or so which is excellent - and about £9 cheaper than the brand new 4000+ mentioned above (don't buy new!).
Most clock between 2.5 and 2.6ghz with ease so that should really be your first port of call.
Once they're clocked that high what you have is effectively quiet close in performance to an FX60 for about 1/6 the price!
Make the smart decision and buy cheap but decent!
gt
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