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Fermi yields are fine, 512-core version TBA

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Fermi yields are fine, 512-core version TBA
By Hilbert Hagedoorn, April 29, 2010 - 7:54 PM

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DigiTimes had a chat with NVIDIA general manager of MCP business Drew Henry. When speaking about Fermi, Henry said rumors about yields being lower than 20 percent are completely untrue. He claims they currently have everything under control, and says they have a chance to launch a 512-core Fermi in the future.

Q: What are your comments on the rumors that Nvidia has blocked some graphics cores with problems on their GeForce 480/470 chips causing these chips to have less than 512 cores due to Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company's (TSMC's) low yields?

A: Nvidia does not comment on unannounced products; however, we have a chance to launch a graphics chip with 512 cores in the future.

TSMC's yields for its 40nm process has met our expectations and market rumors about the yields being lower than 20% are completely untrue. We currently have everything under control.
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When someone says "We have everything under control" you just know the exact opposite is true.
 
It is laughable how bad they can lie, though its starting to finally have an adverse effect, which is good. Even Nvidia fans at the moment should hope the board gets together and throws the CEO overboard because he's completely screwing them up.

IN the last 18 months analysts have been widely lied to, and in the past month or so two big firms have degraded their stock from a buy to a hold with a view to selling because basically the lies they've gotten are starting to be clearly untrue.

When analysts lose faith, the stock could/will tank eventually and Nvidia will lose a lot of capital, a new CEO could turn things around at Nvidia, the current one won't.

If yields were fine, there would be several thousand 512shader version cards available every week at a lower price with more performance, yields are not fine.
 
LoL market supply suggests says this is the worst card launch EVER.

£480 480 anyone? seen them going for £500+ on pre-order and no sign of stock so yeah yields look spot-on. :o
 
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So they hugely delayed Fermi because there were no problems with the yields? And everything is fine? It's like the denial regarding overheating due to pour quality materials. nVidia needs a serious change in leadership and direction, because currently they're a disaster of a company. If you look at ATi and technologies like EyeFinity they're not designed to screw over the competition, whereas nVidia has done the exact opposite with PhysX, CUDA, 3D Vision and their TWIMTBP program.
 
Yup, the problem is, the more they lie the less analysts will believe a word of what they say and that lack of trust doesn't change overnight. Lieing covers problems short term but will hurt them, hard, long term. If the market loses any faith in their ability to deliver, but worse, their inability to know whats happening which is the impression you give when you can't give a correct answer about anything in a couple of years, then their market capital from shares could quite literally dissappear.
 
I suspect they are not lying. You will notice the article says nothing about Fermi yields, the quote is "TSMC's yields for its 40nm process" which includes virtually the entire range of graphics cards and given the lower end cards (like the 250 etc) are probably higher yielding chips it would be fairly easy to get a good yield over the range even if Fermi's yield is 0%.

As for "under control" if they were expecting Fermi to have poor yields then of course it is under control as they are getting poor yields.
 
TAC4U said:
So they hugely delayed Fermi because there were no problems with the yields? And everything is fine? It's like the denial regarding overheating due to pour quality materials. nVidia needs a serious change in leadership and direction, because currently they're a disaster of a company. If you look at ATi and technologies like EyeFinity they're not designed to screw over the competition, whereas nVidia has done the exact opposite with PhysX, CUDA, 3D Vision and their TWIMTBP program.
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Yes, but the green fanboys don't see it like that. It's like "ZOMG Nvidia can do no wrong!!11" and thats why their products will always sell

Couldn't agree more with your post
 
xander_uk2 said:
Yes, but the green fanboys don't see it like that. It's like "ZOMG Nvidia can do no wrong!!11" and thats why their products will always sell

Couldn't agree more with your post
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Seconded.

It looks like it's separating the heavy greenboys from the hardcore ones though.

When you see the heavy greenboys moaning about nVidia you know they're in trouble. :o

Worst thing about it is that they're the first to start calling people fanboys.

When intel bring larabee out, these hard core greenboys are gonna have to start calling people "Intel and ATI fanboys" instead of ATi fanboys when people merely complain that they don't like how nVidia treats their customers and everyone else.
 
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unknownsock said:
Imo they just pushed out the card too quick, they should have waited for Rev.2 maybe?
Although it was late by a long shot already.
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Doesn't really work like that. For there to be a rev 2, there needs to be a rev one first, and they couldn't afford to ditch the current Fermis.
 
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