Ferrari - owners, news, general discussion
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Ferrari are "offering" a customer version of the 499P Le Mans Hypercar but there are some significant catches. It can only be driven at 9 Ferrari organised events each year. There is an extra fee for added tracks. It costs £5,544,720 but you only have access for 2 years. It reads as though you don't get to keep the car.
Edit - I think Autocar have it wrong about owning the car. Other sources say 2 years access to full Ferrari support at events, free tyres, etc.
www.autocar.co.uk
www.ferrari.com
www.ferrari.com
Edit - I think Autocar have it wrong about owning the car. Other sources say 2 years access to full Ferrari support at events, free tyres, etc.
Le Mans-winning Ferrari 499P spawns £4.6m track car | Autocar
Limited-run 777bhp track car for "gentleman drivers" is the most expensive Ferrari yet
Ferrari 499P Modificata | Corse Clienti - Ferrari.com
The highest-performance closed-wheel car that Ferrari has ever proposed for non-competitive use on the track derived from the 499P that triumphed at the 24 Hours of Le Mans
www.ferrari.com
Ferrari 499P Modificata: limited-series sports prototype for non-competitive use unveiled
Ferrari presented the 499P Modificata, a strictly limited-series car for non-competitive track use, at the Ferrari World Finals at the Mugello Circuit today to celebrate the company’s historic return to the top class of endurance racing in the 2023 season.
www.ferrari.com
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More power than the Le Mans prototype and you don’t have to pay for tyres or servicing. To some this is the closest they’ll ever get to driving a proper, 100% prototype Le Mans car.Ferrari are "offering" a customer version of the 499P Le Mans Hypercar but there are some significant catches. It can only be driven at 9 Ferrari organised events each year. There is an extra fee for added tracks. It costs £5,544,720 but you only have access for 2 years. It reads as though you don't get to keep the car.
Le Mans-winning Ferrari 499P spawns £4.6m track car | Autocar
Limited-run 777bhp track car for "gentleman drivers" is the most expensive Ferrari yet
I thought he had two?
Had a 458 and 360, can't remember if he sold the 458?Don't get me wrong, if I won over £100m on Euromillions I would do this in a heartbeat. Beautiful car and what an experience. They apparently do a similar "F1 Clienti" service for people who have bought older F1 cars.
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There's also a 296 Challenge car. Only £276k. 
www.autocar.co.uk
Ferrari 296 Challenge is 690bhp V6 customer racer | Autocar
Firm’s latest racer ditches road car’s hybrid powertrain and is much quicker than V8-engined 488 Challenge
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Forgot about the 360 my badI’ve got two Ferrari’s and not sold any yet.
I’ve got two Ferrari’s and not sold any yet.
what you after next ?
Nothing at the moment, shall just bank the cash and let the nice interest rates earn me money until something maybe takes my fancy.
I personally feel that latest and newest supercars don't really appeal to me:
Ferrari - 296 and F8 having driven both I'd never want to own either, neither match a 458 for engagement on the road, not even a 360 for that matter. Also a used 296 is 300k plus.
Lamborghini - Huracan Technica & Revoluto or whatever it is called, questionable looks, the Revoluto is 500k and though its bonkers quick is no doubt just plain too quick to ever enjoy on the road and though the later Huracan's improved vastly to drive, particular later RWD models, they are in short just an expensive Audi R8 and the R8 could technically be considered more useable and engaging, more storage and manual gearboxes. Though the STO is my favourite but totally inpractical.
Maserati - MC20, looks nice and becoming a relative bargain as I know some people have managed to buy used at just over 150k, so these have lost 100k in just one year, but to me the engine is not special enough.
McLaren - Out of the modern stuff, the Artura is the best driving modern supercar, a hybrid but still weighs sub 1500kg and has hydraulic steering, the downside is I don't they they are worth 250k plus or 200k used, when they are 120-130k used is the time to buy, other than that 750S is an expensive 720S and another sure fire way to hose 100k in just a year, you can buy a 720S today for 110k. The 600 LT is by far their best car, I am biased of course.
Out of new supercars there is nothing I really find attractive or want, technology has made them less engaging and fun, then the pricing is generally ridiculous with most new supercars now costing 300-500k, I think at these prices and anyone buying this year could get extremely burnt, but at same time I am not alone in my thinking as new supercar registrations are massively down due to above but of course finance now cost a lot more and as the cars also cost more, the moderately rich who could once afford to buy new or nearly new now no longer can justify it or afford it.
As such I think long term the pre 2010 supercar market will only get stronger and stronger in years to come, so selling my 458 is probably in many ways a bad idea, but I've had my enjoyment and it cost me circa £5000 a year to keep it, so every five years that is £25,000 in servicing, road tax and insurance etc and as such any potential uptrend it may have is nullified by ownership cost and I feel I've done what I can with it and enjoyed it thoroughly but its now time to turn it into cash, let that cash make me more cash and also save the £5000 per year in ownership cost.
I absolutely love my 360, it is so engaging and I feel is more likely to explode in value than the 458 especially as 360 CS are all now 200k plus and some even hitting 300k, which is very good for 360 manual residuals, but that aside I literally do not care what it is worth now or in 3/5/10 years time, the car is for me to enjoy and if its worth 20k or 200k in ten years I don't care, of course the latter is nice but its not the reason for ownership, I buy to enjoy and make memories and have fun along the journey.
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Soldato
The way this thing gets to it's top end is unreal. Although anyone with OCD will be screaming about the 1km/h.
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Do it next year, F12’s gained big time during Covid as pre Covid you could drop in an F12 for 120-130k, they then shot up too around 170-180k and are back down to 150-160ish now. I say give it another 12 months and they should be back around 130.
Other one is 812’s can also see those sub 200 next year and these are V12 Ferrari’s the very best V12 cars out there so I might be tempted to even join you with hunting one down next year.
Taken a deposit on the 458 this week also so probably be gone soon.
Soldato
Was it @EyeDot who has/had F40?
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Myself and my father have a Ferrari 308 GTS in the garage! Barely used but gets out in the summer! A true classic and it sounds awesome! Had it for almost 20 years now! Regularly serviced at Graypauls
Soldato
Before buying the McLaren I went to see a very nice, well specced F12 at JCT600 Ferrari in Leeds. It had sold between my enquiring about the car and getting over there to see it, but it sold for a shade under £150k. I kept an eye on the values and that same car would have sold for at least £20k more not even 6 months later. They are just starting to soften back to sensible prices now but I think the market is going to continue to decline further and perhaps we'll see the F12 following the traditional Ferrari V12 depreciation curve again soon. A bit of patience might save you a significant chunk of cash. I think if the exact car I looked at came back on the market now with sensible mileage it would probably be on at what it sold for...
That said, if you're looking to buy and your ideal car comes up it is a buyer's market now so maybe you'll be able to make a deal happen.
I think the prices showing right now will sell for at least 20k less. Market is in free fall right now. I am hearing of 50k plus off certain new Ferraris in stock and stock Turbo S 992’s with discounts for those who want them. Lots of turned down finance I’m hearing too.
We are on the downward cycle…
We are on the downward cycle…
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you aren't alone on that one but until the condition of the roads improves I won't be bothering
Yes (had)
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