Ferrari & Red Bull Quit FOTA

Yes there was. There was a FOTA imposed limit for FOTA members, and I belive the penalty for breaking it was being kicked out of FOTA.

Jumped before they were pushed?

There were lots of rumours and claims that redbull spent more than they should havw this year, and ferrari probably thought they have had enough and if red bull aren't sticking to it then neither should they. Mclaren aren't going to let those two spend what they want either so they will have no choice but to leave. The whole thing will fall apart now.
 
Actually yes i do, maybe let people answer your posts before answering them yourself. You just make yourself look like a bigger **** than most think you already are :p

Oh and happy Christmas, i imagine you have a little made up name for Santa too!
Lol recently your posts have made me hate red bull even more than I already did, you come across as arrogant, which is the same vibe I get from the team in general

Can't wait for you guys to slip back into mid field :D
 
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