Fighting a dog

I've got a golden retriever and although i wouldn't class it as a big dog it is still nearly pure muscle. When we play fight the only way to get her to stop is to pin her to the ground, we play fight quite rough sometimes as i'm a big guy myself and little punches that ordinarily give mates dead arms seem to do nothing to her, and it doesn't get her angry in the slightest. She loves me dearly and would never do anything to seriously hurt me, but if you can't get her pinned properly she will use any and every tactic to get out of it, and a lot of the time its successful. However it is possible for her to get pinned with just my bodyweight and one arm, leaving the other arm free for possible attacks....

Although the absolute best way to stop her when shes biting your arm is to jump your bodyweight over her so the arm being bitten is wrapped around her shoulders and fling her to the ground, as she rolls follow through your own roll and you'll end up with your arm holding her head down and your bodyweight on her... follow this up with keeping her still when she struggles and stroking the back of her head while making a "shhhhh" sound will relax her totally up and its quite often she will actually fall asleep.

Fighting a dog for the majority of people is a situation they will never win, the best thing to do is calm it down, the easiest way is changing its mindset from agressive to submissive... restricting its movement and making calming noises are the best way to do that.

People keep throwing out examples of massive dogs but no follow through with massive people, an average dog (retreiver, labrador, alsation) would not win in a fight to the death with an average person.
 
sunama said:
That cross breed sounds like a lethal combination. It should not only be larger than a Pitbull Terrier, but also more aggressive and a better fighter than a Rottwieler.

However, are you suggesting that while it has its teeth locked onto your arm, 2 fingers shoved all the way into its eye sockets would not stop it? I'm beginning to think that people believe that dogs are mythical creatures made from magic and witchcraft. Guys, these are animals and pretty much all animals can be killed without weaponry.

If any animal had its eyeballs penetrated, it would no longer be capable of continuing an attack and would almost certainly die as a result of its injuries.
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I agree with what your saying, but while he is ragging your arm you would do well to get to him and in a state of shock as the dog crushs your bone in your arm.
One thing is for sure we are top of the food change thats why dogs are pets, so we will always be the master.
but telling you now if you was attacked by a pitball your gonna get seriously hurt.
 
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sunama said:
I refuse to believe that any animal on Earth can get up from taking a bullet in the brain.
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This is RL, not a computer game: headshots are not guaranteed fatal on a large animal, including a human. Go and read up on soldiers who have survived massive head injuries in combat due to even high-velocity rounds. This is why police etc marksmen aim for the chest: it is far more likely to stop a person instantly. The technique of offing suicide bombers with head-shots only works for certain if you use several shots.


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Banny said:
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but telling you now if you was attacked by a pitball your gonna get seriously hurt.
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No one doubts that. The minute the pitbull has sunk its teeth into any part of you, you will be bleeding.

However, if it were a fight to the death, it might not be clear as to who would come out on top. Obviously we hear a lot of stories of women (who are not fighting back) and children being attacked by dogs and ending up in critical condition, but we hardly hear of super fit men ending up in the same predicament. This surely cannot be a coincidence.
 
sunama said:
No one doubts that. The minute the pitbull has sunk its teeth into any part of you, you will be bleeding.

However, if it were a fight to the death, it might not be clear as to who would come out on top. Obviously we hear a lot of stories of women (who are not fighting back) and children being attacked by dogs and ending up in critical condition, but we hardly hear of super fit men ending up in the same predicament. This surely cannot be a coincidence.
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Search google images for American pit ball.

The man on there didn seem to look to have done too well
 
Doohickey said:
Oh that is blatantly a 'shop...
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NO ITS REAL!:eek::eek::eek::eek:

I just found this Article about it!

Hercules was recently awarded the honorable distinction of Worlds Biggest Dog by Guinness World Records. Hercules is an English Mastiff and who has a 38 inch neck and weighs 282 pounds.

With “paws the size of softballs” (reports the Boston Herald), the three-year-old monster is far larger and heavier than his breed’s standard 200lb. limit. Hercules owner Mr. Flynn says that Hercules weight is natural and not induced by a bizarre diet: “I fed him normal food and he just “grew”… and grew. and grew. and grew.

Kell: Slightly Smaller, But the World’s Heaviest Dog Hercules’ sheer volume may have won him the Largest Dog world record, but the Heaviest Dog title still rests with Kell who weighed in at 286 pounds in August of 1999. This English Mastiff, however, only has a 32-inch neck - far less than
Hercules’ 38-incher. Think about that for a second though - 32 inches is a standard waist size for a man!

Proud owner Tom Scott said Kell is two years old and is expected to continue to grow for the next two years. Kell needs to be fed 100lb of beef every week, and drinks gallons of goats’ milk to stay healthy…
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Thats one hell of a lot of meat:eek:
 
As a former Police Dog Handler I'd suggest the best method is to simply choke the dog off. Feel for and grasp it's windpipe and squeeze. Believe me, once it realises it can't breathe it'll let go pretty quickly ;)
 
MTA99 said:
And even feeding him cheap £5/kilo cuts of meat thats over £200 a week on dog food - madness!! :eek:
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Im guessing he would have to make friends with a Slaughter yard and get there floor bits for it:p


I want to Breed Kell and Hercules! Their offspring would be Huge!
 
PaulStat said:
After seeing the Bull Massiff thread, it got me thinking. Do you think you take a strong dog like a rotweiler seriously? Although big dogs they generally have a weight disadvantage of humans. What does the dog have in it's favour

. Sharp teeth, powerful jaw
. Basically a large mass of muscle
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I'd take a dog like a rotty very seriously indeed, If being chased by one I'd be up the nearest tree asap. I'll give you an example. I'm the new and very proud owner of an 8 week old male Akita, We tried fitting a collar on him the other day and just for a joke my gf told me to put it on afterwards, and to our suprise his neck is as thick as mine, thats an 8 week old dog with the same size neck as a 30 year old, 6'2, 15 1/2 stone bloke.

PaulStat said:
Perhaps i'm naive but I think although it would be one hell of a struggle with a dog hanging off of my arm, I still think i'd be able to work myself into a position to kill/seriously injure the dog.
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Dogs like rottys, bull mastiffs, Akitas etc can get up to about 10 stone, combine that with a low centre of mavity and jaws strong enough not only to hold onto your arm, but break it aswell. tbh I'd rather just climb the nearest tree.
 
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sunama said:
Ive noticed that it seems to be taking multiple bullets to put these dogs down. Are the Police/Soldiers bad shots or something? I refuse to believe that any animal on Earth can get up from taking a bullet in the brain. It would have to be an extraordinary occurrance for this to happen.
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Well that guy in australia fired 25 shots and hit it 5 times, with an accuracy rate of 20% it's not suprising they didn't hit any vital areas. And if your using a tiny caliber it doesn't help either. It wouldn't take 5 shots from a .50 thats for sure.
 
wordy said:
Dogs like rottys, bull mastiffs, Akitas etc can get up to about 10 stone, combine that with a low centre of mavity and jaws strong enough not only to hold onto your arm, but break it aswell.
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Men like Stone Cold Steve Austin and Goldberg can get upto around 18 stone, combine that with athletism, strength, jaws strong enough to not only hold onto a dogs leg, but bite right through it and the ability to bend and dislocate joints/limbs and the dog will have a serious fight on its hands.

If you lay down and allow a dog to maul you to death then there can only be one result. Hoping that it will "have mercy", will guarantee it a nice and easy kill. A dog is an animal and if it is intent on killing you, then you cannot simply be docile and let it do what it wants with you. You have to fight back. If its a fight to the death, then you must be prepared to do anything, even bite its leg and break a bone with your own (very powerful) jaw/teeth. When adrenaline kicks in (which it will, when you realise this is a fight to the death), Im positive that a human wont be the walkover that some are suggesting.

LOL, this thread it turning into a debate.

wordy said:
tbh I'd rather just climb the nearest tree.
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In saying all of the above, this would be my first course of action, too. :)
 
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