file server - on premise or cloud hosted

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Looking at what people have implemented

Size of data is about 3 TB, access from Windows 10/11 clients and 2 Apple Mac's

Looking at file server as a hosted solution (Azure ideally)

Anyone done such a set up for a small user base (30-40 people)

Access from office and from home
 
Access from office and from home

What ratio? If access is primarily from the office, never underestimate the impact of someone with a digger. And 'cloud' just means someone else's computer, so make sure you have resilience there.
 
We have 2 buffalo terastation..both 8Tb raid 5.

Staff access files from the TeraStation 1.

TeraStation 1 is back up to TeraStation 2 (in different office) every 2 days in case of accident deletion, virus, or failure then switch to TeraStation 2 by changing the IP address.

TeraStation 1 is also backed up to IceDrive 10Tb cloud for off-site backup.
 
Am I right in that these files would be pulled down to the clients for use locally? If so, look at data egress costs, they can be nasty.

From my limited knowledge, I'd suggest not using the cloud for a file server in this traditional sense, only use it for backup purposes as ingress bandwidth is much, much cheaper and you shouldn't be needing to drag it down very often at all. Unless you have a specific requirement, I'd store files regularly required off-cloud, well, off cloud, only storing files in cloud for for other resources also on the cloud. For your use case this would mean either getting something on-prem or using some sort of desktop virtualisation; check out azure virtual desktop. Also, say on-prem or on-premises! Although it seems to be used a lot around the industry, the term on premise makes no sense :p
 
€810 per year for 10Tb. Sync directly from the Synology NAS?

IceDrive is doing the summer deal for 10Tb for £750 lifetime (one payment) but need a pc with a sync software
 
€810 per year for 10Tb. Sync directly from the Synology NAS?
Yes, it's directly from the NAS and there's no egress charges. You can either keeps files in sync with the cloud, or you can use it as a backup (as I do). As you'd expect with Synology, it works like a charm.
 
Quick question, Synology NAS and it's cloud have O365 Azure AD support for O365 users by using their login?

Edit- reason I ask as the storage on SP is very expensive. We are currently paying £4k per year for extra file storage on SP. Very expensive.
 
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Quick question, Synology NAS and it's cloud have O365 Azure AD support for O365 users by using their login?

Edit- reason I ask as the storage on SP is very expensive. We are currently paying £4k per year for extra file storage on SP. Very expensive.

What size company? I don't know what Synology support is like in the enterprise space. Also, they are pretty adamant you run their own drives and own memory for their enterprise grade NAS lineup, the drives are comically expensive compared to Toshiba etc.

My DS1821+ is connected to my homelab AD, I use it for providing authentication to specific folders for backups etc. Works really well.
 
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some thoughts based on my limited understanding.

need to consider the yearly budget costs as well with any deciesion.

some thoughts
onprem : hardware cost - one off - add 6 year life cycle
hardware support and maintence / extra disks / disaster recovery / backups
upgradeability i/e adding additional storage how easy this is could be.
security - server updates including firmware/bios + hypervisor and OS updates
say 20k every 5-6 years
+ UPS's
more to manage and maintain.
Wireguard Client (alternative to direct access) + VPN alt Backup.
Time investment and maintanablity + Documentation + team size supporting + plan if you leave (may not be your problem then but who ever takes over will need information on set up).
Technical Knowledge needed / have
tied to physicall access, may need at least two internet lines on differant circutes to try and add redundence (additional costs) speed tbc i.e. BT / Virgin Media - what coffee shops are near by and do you like the coffee?
Depends if home working isnt mandatory i.e. staff can get to office if they need to, to access files.
Windows / Linux knowlege

Cloud : your at the mercy of the cloud providers and the rates they charge. E3 would be looking at maybe £10.5k a year (based on Office E3 £22 per person per year for 40 people)
but they offer a range of usfull services and you dont need to worry about storage growth, just costs.
i'd suggest the E5 licence i think.
as per Zefan Data egress costs ! often overlooked
and plan and costs to move off platform if needed in future.
Assuming no issues with Internet providers or Azure then you should be fine (has happened)
less to manage in theory

there is the hybrid approach.
something like https://bluexp.netapp.com/blog/talon-fast-works-with-cloud-volumes-ontap-to-unify-data
this ones a bit more tricky.

i'd suggest sharepoint as that also includes onedrive and a host of office integration and sharing options. but everything from MS at moment to me seems like a Beta, but thats probably the ring we are on in office.
the cross working of multiple people on a document is very usefull for things like spread sheets. but only if you have the budget for it and prepared to pay for it regularly and staff are sensible ish with what they are doing.

personlly i can never really see how cloud long term is very feasable when compared to local on-prem.

you'd need to work out your requirements a bit more i feel, and get some costs from an MS representative to see if you can get a good deal.
 
thanks for all the info

I used the Azure Calculator to work out costs for 4 TB storage and comes to about 900 pounds a month which for a small business is too much, now looking at a Synology device.
 
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