Filling+Bleeding advise needed

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Hi,

I've read a lot of threads and seen videos about this but I'm still not sure how i can get all the air out of my loop and I'm having the following issues. Please can you advise what i should do to try and resolve them?

First of all, heres a pic of the setup so you know which parts are where:
http://i49.tinypic.com/ny8qk8.jpg
This was taken with only the leds/fans running. Both the pc and the pump were off and you can see all tubes are filled with liquid and the res is nearly filled to the brim.

The pump is a Laing 10W DDC-Pump 12V and an EK TOP

My first concern is the water entering the res keeps changing speed. Every now and then theres a sudden rush of bubbles (about 22 seconds into the vid) and then it dies down again. I presume this is air being cycled around the loop by the pump?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCjsYN5tCGg
I've tried turning the pump on/off every few seconds, tilting the case at an angle (90 degrees), shaking it and swinging it left and then right and leaving the top of the res open for some time. I get a lot of air travel along the tube from the top rad to the res, but the problem persists. I've been doing this for a week now.

The next problem is air sitting in the tube:
http://i50.tinypic.com/2h2o774.jpg
How do i fix this? Should i add more water? I first noticed it when i initially filled the system, i kept adding water untill the tube going to the res was completely full even when the pump is turned off. Though after a week it seems to have returned, my guess is that the air has settled in the res? I see peoples systems with the res nowhere near as full as mine, yet they dont seem to have this issue.

As a result of the above issue, when i turn the pump off, some of the air travels back into the top rad:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=omN_QJlfoPg
Again, do i just need to add more water?

And lastly, the noise from the water entering the res is driving me nuts. I dont want to run the system with all this noise as its worse than on air. It was a lot quiter when the res was nearly full, is this the only way to prevent it?
I could also hear some trickling noise from the top rad that would come and go every ~15 seconds.
Also i was disapointed to see the colour difference of the water in the tubes compared to the res, I'll be using coloured tubing next time i think :(
 
Thanks for the tips, I'll give it another go.
I didn't plan on putting the input at the bottom of the res, and I'd rather not go down that route. Though I do see how it would make life easier and will bear that in mind. I think I'll try and top it up with water so that the inlet is submerged. If i end up draining the system then i may swap out the anti-cyclone for one of the cylinders that come with the res, I'll put it on the inlet to help submerge it.
I guess that will also help reduce the noise of the water trickling. What do you think?
 
You need the inlet of the reservoir submerged in water to stop the noise. I take it that res doesn't have a tube going down from the top inlet towards the pump.

Thanks for your response, I topped it up last night after getting the air out of the radiators again. Its now completely full (maybe a small gap of air under the hole I use to fill at the top of the res, next to the inlet) and its now silent (except for the normal noise of the pump humming) :)
The res doesn't have a tube going down from the inlet, but the top section of the res has two inlets, one of which is about 1 cm deep and this is the one i've used for the loop and its submerged. The other inlet I use for filling and its not filled to the brim, but very close. (hard to explain without taking a picture)
The res does come with little tubes that screw into the inlets, but you cant use these at the same time as the anti-cyclone. I wasn't sure which to use, but may swap them when it comes to changing the water.
Thanks again
 
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