The PS3 one doesn't have any install whatsoever if that was the problem.
The story is totally new each time, new characters, new world so that's not a problem either
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The PS3 one doesn't have any install whatsoever if that was the problem.
The story is totally new each time, new characters, new world so that's not a problem either
ok 1 more question
is it meant to be better on ps3 or 360 ?....pls no flaming of consoles just a genuine answer if anyone knows.
i have lots of space on my 360 since i dont have many games for it.
PS3 without a doubt, the 360 version comes on 3 disks and runs at a lower resolution, check page 20 for some comparison pictures.
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Nah, You still have to swap disks as far as I'm aware. it just cuts down on the DVD noise, and speeds up seek times.
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guys dont worry about the tunnel thing too much, you do go in diff areas on the way and its not too noticable...basically you are not stuck solid in the same tunnel and thats it for 20 hours..im in an outside area with 5 hours gameplay atm
Yes - just bear in mind that video is NOT representative of the whole game.
Yes, the Final Fantasy 'series' isn't really a series at all, just a string of rpg's from Square-Enix. It has a few common themes, like characters called Cid, chocobo's, airships and the like, but there is no over-arching story that connects all the games together.
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lies i tell ya lies, what about FF X and FF X-2
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Exactly, just think of of it like in other JRPGs where you have to visit dungeons and such to progress through the main game.
Yep, think of it has a giant volume of different stories that uses some similiar elements and ideas, but they are completely different in each one with new worlds/universes and characters.
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It's only going to be a let down if you're expecting it be. ALL of the major gripes are regarding the linearity, because it's different to older titles. The reviewers giving XIII 5/6 out of 10 are venting anger because the game's approach is so different from older titles.
If Final Fantasy XIII was Final Fantasy I, and there had been no previous titles, it would be getting solid 8/9 scores. It's clearly a good game, and only pales when you compare it to previous FFs. And that's not in its quality - it's in its delivery.
If Final Fantasy XIII was Final Fantasy I, and there had been no previous titles, it would be getting solid 8/9 scores. It's clearly a good game, and only pales when you compare it to previous FFs. And that's not in its quality - it's in its delivery.
I agree, you shouldn't compare FF13 to previous titles. You compare it to Oblivion, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, The Witcher, Fallout 3, Demon's Souls.
Those games have set the rpg bar. Those games are what FF13 has to be compared to. 13 is a Jrpg, but that doesn't give it a free pass. It's still an rpg.
Ultimately, FF13 does not meet the standards those games have set. It's not a bad game, it's just a disappointing game, and 7 or 8 out of 10 is probably about right.
Those games have set the rpg bar. Those games are what FF13 has to be compared to. 13 is a Jrpg, but that doesn't give it a free pass. It's still an rpg.
Ultimately, FF13 does not meet the standards those games have set. It's not a bad game, it's just a disappointing game, and 7 or 8 out of 10 is probably about right.
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You can't compare any FF game to any of those, they are all western RPG's, 3 of them are sandbox RPGs, all of them are active battle style games with The Witcher and Dragon Age being simply slight variations of those.
I really don't see how you could to be honest.
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That itself is the problem right there. Too many people compare Final Fantasy XIII it to Western RPG standards and always try to force JRPGs in general overall to submit to it. Why should they be forced to change the way they do their own thing? I mean yeah, much of the mechanics and design choices has been the same for many years now, but that is their own style. They should be allowed to express their own direction to the RPG genre. If anything, I can complain at why Western RPGs these days tend to be more shooter oriented, which in itself says something as many of the most popular Western-made games these days are FPS games.
Now, you could argue about Demon Souls as well. Whilst it is Japanese developed, and the game is more Western in design and theme (Swords and Sorcery, Dark Ages, Medieval), isn't that just the choice of the developer and their own direction?
The thing is, Square-Enix have been quite purposeful in the design of FF13; they deliberately have tried to make it appealing to the West. And when you do that, then you automatically step into the arena with Bioware and Bethesda.
That's not a fight Square are ready for.
FF13 will still sell well over here, but Square willl never have an Oblivion-big hit in the West if they aren't coming into the fight with either branching dialogue choices, sandbox gameplay, varied classes or good replayability. FF13 has none of those. It's like throwing Richard Madely at Mike Tyson. (of course, the opposite is also true. One of the biggest games of last year was Unchartered 2, which ranked a paltry 17 in a "20 best games of 2009" in Japan).
This rpg culture clash will always be a problem for Square.
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I'm about 15 hours in, and the one thing that really annoys me about this game is the fact that you get fully healed/ressurected at the end of every battle. It's ridiculously easy. And if you do actually happen to die, you can choose retry and it plops you back to the start of the battle.
Save points are now just for turning off your console.
Save points are now just for turning off your console.
That is not what Final Fantasy is about and never will be. Also replayability is not something you can measure, personaly I found Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age to have next to no replayability at all, however I know people to think differently.
The "culture clash" is not a "problem for square" in the slightest, they've been designing games the way they want to for decades that have been massive successes, FFX and XII are both ranked in the top 10 best selling PS2 games of all time, VII and VIII are in the top 10 for the PS1, FFXIII is already in the top 10 best selling PS3 games.
Also some figures for you from FFXII
5.2 million approximately: 2.4 million in Japan, 1.7 million in US, 1.1 million in Europe
Notice how in "the west" the game sold 2.8 Million copies, which is 400,000 more than in Japan.
Square have no problem selling to the west.
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