umm, tricky to tell seeing that, maybe OP will have to test either setup?
Edit : review i seen befor iirc was a gtx560 and a gs6600, witch had almost halfed the performance so you maybe right
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Finally about to order my new build. Are there any extras or accesories I should get?
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umm, tricky to tell seeing that, maybe OP will have to test either setup?
Edit : review i seen befor iirc was a gtx560 and a gs6600, witch had almost halfed the performance so you maybe right
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/evga-gtx275-coop-physx_9.html#sect0
PhysX on -24/74.2fps
+GT220 - 33/114.7fps
PhysX on -24/74.2fps
+GT220 - 33/114.7fps
Well, I took the older card out when I tidied up the build as it seemed far too noisy.
All the benchmarks were done without the card
Edit: So the link you provided.. does this mean it is better to use my 8800 as a physx card??
All the benchmarks were done without the card
Edit: So the link you provided.. does this mean it is better to use my 8800 as a physx card??
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Well, I took the older card out when I tidied up the build as it seemed far too noisy.
All the benchmarks were done without the card
Edit: So the link you provided.. does this mean it is better to use my 8800 as a physx card??
well according to the link that was provided i am incorrect so according to that you are right that the dedacated physx card will improve performance.
u may need to do benches with both setups to conferm tho.
in games that use PhysX, adding the GT220 to do the PhysX improved results.
I'd love to improve performance, however the card is so loud it ruins a near silent rig. 
Saying near silent, systems somehow got noisier, seems to be the 120mm antec fan that came with the Kuhler, considering replacing it and the xilence fan to make it push pull with a pair of same fans and splitter, should improve performance and noise?
Saying near silent, systems somehow got noisier, seems to be the 120mm antec fan that came with the Kuhler, considering replacing it and the xilence fan to make it push pull with a pair of same fans and splitter, should improve performance and noise?
I'd love to improve performance, however the card is so loud it ruins a near silent rig.
Saying near silent, systems somehow got noisier, seems to be the 120mm antec fan that came with the Kuhler, considering replacing it and the xilence fan to make it push pull with a pair of same fans and splitter, should improve performance and noise?
Firstly, build looks great mate
I ordered my Kuhler today. I am going to be using 2 Apaches in Push/pull as i have them lying around. I am using them a (pretty much redundant) case fans atm and they are almost completely silent at 100%, though i believe you don't really need high rpm's for this set-up.
I think a lot of people like to use Vipers with w/c though
Ps i looked at that case for a long time whilst choosing mine, but in the end went with the NZXT Phantom. The inside of the Fractal looks very nice, bet you have plenty of room
Firstly, build looks great mate
I ordered my Kuhler today. I am going to be using 2 Apaches in Push/pull as i have them lying around. I am using them a (pretty much redundant) case fans atm and they are almost completely silent at 100%, though i believe you don't really need high rpm's for this set-up.
I think a lot of people like to use Vipers with w/c though
Ps i looked at that case for a long time whilst choosing mine, but in the end went with the NZXT Phantom. The inside of the Fractal looks very nice, bet you have plenty of room
So much room. Still can't get used to the size of the whole thing. I feel I do then I notice again
I may order some fans, i've noticed a few people planning on this and i'm going to keep an eye on them to see how they get on.
It has confused me though, i'm sure Antec don't recommend using a splitter as the fan needs the power..
How is it done then? seperate headers or power? Still not grasping how fans work
David
Works as follows. Generally Fans come with 1 or 2 connections.
A 3/4 pin molex KK header connector, which you put onto the motherboard. With this, the fan can be set to auto increase/decrease RPM as the temperature goes up and down. You can also manually control the fan through your system this way. (Speedfan etc). Takes power from the mobo.
A 4 pin PSU molex connector, which takes power from the PSU directly instead of the mobo. handy if you need extra fans and your mobo doesn't have many extra headers.
Some come with either, some come with both. You can buy an adapter to make it go either way.
Edit: For the Kuhler, the CPU fan header powers both the pump and the stock fan that comes with the Kuhler, with a power cable going from the pump to the fan, and from the pump to the mobo header. Additional fans get plugged into the sys_fan headers around your board, or onto your psu, depending on what case/fans you have.
Editedit: Many typos, sorry if you subbed this thread lol.
A 3/4 pin molex KK header connector, which you put onto the motherboard. With this, the fan can be set to auto increase/decrease RPM as the temperature goes up and down. You can also manually control the fan through your system this way. (Speedfan etc). Takes power from the mobo.
A 4 pin PSU molex connector, which takes power from the PSU directly instead of the mobo. handy if you need extra fans and your mobo doesn't have many extra headers.
Some come with either, some come with both. You can buy an adapter to make it go either way.
Edit: For the Kuhler, the CPU fan header powers both the pump and the stock fan that comes with the Kuhler, with a power cable going from the pump to the fan, and from the pump to the mobo header. Additional fans get plugged into the sys_fan headers around your board, or onto your psu, depending on what case/fans you have.
Editedit: Many typos, sorry if you subbed this thread lol.
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Works as follows. Generally Fans come with 1 or 2 connections.
A 3/4 pin molex KK header connector, which you put onto the motherboard. With this, the fan can be set to auto increase/decrease RPM as the temperature goes up and down. You can also manually control the fan through your system this way. (Speedfan etc). Takes power from the mobo.
A 4 pin PSU molex connector, which takes power from the PSU directly instead of the mobo. handy if you need extra fans and your mobo doesn't have many extra headers.
Some come with either, some come with both. You can buy an adapter to make it go either way.
Edit: For the Kuhler, the CPU fan header powers both the pump and the stock fan that comes with the Kuhler, with a power cable going from the pump to the fan, and from the pump to the mobo header. Additional fans get plugged into the sys_fan headers around your board, or onto your psu, depending on what case/fans you have.
Editedit: Many typos, sorry if you subbed this thread lol.
Haha well I sub everything so I don't miss anything important, or stupid, but don't check my email enough.
Thanks for the info, I did a bit of googling on it also.
Makes sense, however by having two fans so close either side of the rad, which are different fans and running at different speeds as they are not both connected to the Kuhler, are they not competing and causing a bit of an issue? Yet again its something I feel I may have read somewhere but need to get straight.
Also I have failed to find where to control the sys1 fan in the bios. Found the Cpu one as I had to disable it's inteligent control but couldn't find a page for the other fans like I remember from my old Striker Extreme.
David
It doesn't work like this -
It's like this -
Many users ask about the terms “push” and “pull”. This simply refers to a fan pushing air into the radiator or the fan pulling air through the radiator. The stock single fan configuration is a push setup, with the single fan pushing cool air from outside the case into the radiator.
Adding a second fan, as seen below, results in the second fan pulling the air through the radiator. A push-pull set up bringing cool air into the radiator with 2 fans is an excellent set up for cooling your CPU. Ideally, you will need to use 2 identical fans to avoid any of the airflow issues that can arise with using 2 fans that have different airflow characteristics.
Most fans have directional arrows indicating fan blade rotation and airflow direction as circled below. Note that the “pull” fan on the right has been modified. A corner of the shroud has been cut away to clear a heat sink on the motherboard. This is a common solution to clearance issues.
Realistically, the fan speeds aren't massively important in push/pull, aslong as there isn't a big difference in rpm. (eg 1 fan at 1200 and the other at 1500 really wont make much diff). Though, most people get one fan type they like and stick to it. Remember you don't need to keep the stock kuhler fan. you can simply leave the pump switched on with the cpu header and use 2x 120mm fans of your choice for the rad.
It's like this -
Many users ask about the terms “push” and “pull”. This simply refers to a fan pushing air into the radiator or the fan pulling air through the radiator. The stock single fan configuration is a push setup, with the single fan pushing cool air from outside the case into the radiator.
Adding a second fan, as seen below, results in the second fan pulling the air through the radiator. A push-pull set up bringing cool air into the radiator with 2 fans is an excellent set up for cooling your CPU. Ideally, you will need to use 2 identical fans to avoid any of the airflow issues that can arise with using 2 fans that have different airflow characteristics.
Most fans have directional arrows indicating fan blade rotation and airflow direction as circled below. Note that the “pull” fan on the right has been modified. A corner of the shroud has been cut away to clear a heat sink on the motherboard. This is a common solution to clearance issues.
Realistically, the fan speeds aren't massively important in push/pull, aslong as there isn't a big difference in rpm. (eg 1 fan at 1200 and the other at 1500 really wont make much diff). Though, most people get one fan type they like and stick to it. Remember you don't need to keep the stock kuhler fan. you can simply leave the pump switched on with the cpu header and use 2x 120mm fans of your choice for the rad.
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Thanks for that
. I got the fans the right way, it did take me a long time to research and did realise what it meant with regards to the radiator. Also good to know the speed difference isn't too much off an issue if at all. Can't figure out which fan is the loud one, the rad itself makes no noise as its just a container/heatsink for the water right?
Thanks
David