Finally looking for a gaming PC @800 check these specs please

[Cpukid]

My first build

Would welcome any suggestions, alternatives advice
Thanks

 

[RJC]

Hello and welcome to the forum

Could you post a link to the full sized version of the pic please, its a bit small.

Spec looks rubbish, give me a moment.

 

[Uncle Petey]

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18371076

 

[stulid]

Heres some tweaks,

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £184.99
1 x MSI HD 7850 OC 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Cards w/ Nexuiz, Sleeping Dogs & Dirt Showdown PC Games £131.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77X-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £112.99
1 x Samsung 128GB SSD 830 Desktop Series SATA 6Gb/s KIT with Norton Ghost - (MZ-7PC128D/EU) £89.99
1 x Antec High Current Gamer M 520W "80+ Bronze" Modular Power Supply £69.98
1 x Toshiba (7K1000.D) 1TB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA100) £59.99
1 x Cooler Master Silencio 450 Midi Tower Case - Black £49.99
1 x GeIL EVO Leggera 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17000C11 2133MHz Dual Channel Kit (GEL38GB2133C11DC) £35.99
1 x Alpenföhn Matterhorn Pure Edition CPU Cooler (Socket LGA2011/1366/1155/1156/775/ AMD AM3/AM3+/AM2/AM2+/FM1) £27.59
1 x Samsung SH-S222BB/RSMS 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black/Silver/Biege) - Retail £14.99
Total : £791.09 (includes shipping : £10.50).




Any questions?


Maybe the PSU above could do with being 600w or more.

 

[RJC]

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £184.99
1 x MSI GeForce GTX 660 OC Twin Frozr 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £179.99
1 x Samsung 128GB SSD 830 Desktop Series SATA 6Gb/s KIT with Norton Ghost - (MZ-7PC128D/EU) £89.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £84.98
1 x Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD103SJ / ST1000DM005) £67.99
1 x XFX Pro 550W Core Edition '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £59.99
1 x BitFenix Shinobi USB3.0 Gaming Case - Black £42.98
1 x GeIL EVO Leggera 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (GEL38GB1600C9DC) £29.99
1 x Alpenföhn Matterhorn Pure Edition CPU Cooler (Socket LGA2011/1366/1155/1156/775/ AMD AM3/AM3+/AM2/AM2+/FM1) £27.59
1 x Samsung SH-S222BB/RSMS 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black/Silver/Biege) - Retail £14.99
Total : £798.48 (includes shipping : £12.50).

 

[Cpukid]

Hi Stulid Thanks for the fast reply's hope the picture is bigger now viewable. Some tweaks look like a major reshuffle I get most of the changes you have suggested can you just explain the GFX card and the CPU changes
I take it that this will have no probs running latest games on max res?

 

[stulid]

• In games the hyperthreading feature of the i7 is wasted, thus a 3570K is as good and cheaper.

• Your GFX selection was just crap to put it simply, a 7850 (either 1GB or 2Gb is far far far better) heres a rough guide to GFX card hierarchy - http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GT_640/28.html

 

[RJC]

The hyperthreading cores on the 3770K offer very little or virtually no gains in performance over the 3570k cpu.

The GPU'S specced by myself and stulid are far better than the 450.

 

[Cpukid]

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £184.99
1 x MSI GeForce GTX 660 OC Twin Frozr 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £179.99
1 x Samsung 128GB SSD 830 Desktop Series SATA 6Gb/s KIT with Norton Ghost - (MZ-7PC128D/EU) £89.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £84.98
1 x Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD103SJ / ST1000DM005) £67.99
1 x XFX Pro 550W Core Edition '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £59.99
1 x BitFenix Shinobi USB3.0 Gaming Case - Black £42.98
1 x GeIL EVO Leggera 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (GEL38GB1600C9DC) £29.99
1 x Alpenföhn Matterhorn Pure Edition CPU Cooler (Socket LGA2011/1366/1155/1156/775/ AMD AM3/AM3+/AM2/AM2+/FM1) £27.59
1 x Samsung SH-S222BB/RSMS 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black/Silver/Biege) - Retail £14.99
Total : £798.48 (includes shipping : £12.50).

Thanks what's the difference between the 2 motherboards? Z77 and Z77x? Also the reason for the gfx card, you both seem to reply faster then I can LOL but many thanks for your help!! Looks like I will be driving to stoke on Sat

 

[stulid]

Thanks what's the difference between the 2 motherboards? Z77 and Z77x?

Side by side comparison - http://uk.gigabyte.com/products/comparison/list.aspx?ck=2&pids=4327,4325

The Z77X-D3H main claim is SLI/Crossfire support at an equal 8X/8X for both cards.

 

[honosuseri]

I prefer RJCs spec if I'm honest..... Granted Stulid kept the case you liked though

Stulid offered a SLI/Xfire capable mobo (dual GPUs), RJC went with the cheaper mobo without it. As stulid said his spec could do with a better PSU to exploit the SLI/Xfire.

I would suggest a 2GB GPU, 1GB of VRAM is false economy in my eyes, it's not difficult to exceed 1GB with current titles. Which one you choose will depend on what games you play. The 7850 is good and overclocks well so is great bang for buck with the included games but the 660 RJC offered is better certainly on BF3.

660 vs 7850

The nvidia GPU also has cuda support which is widely used by lots of software. The i7 is overkill for gaming, the i5K makes more sense and CUDA can help it further so the loss of hyperthreading isnt the end of the world.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £184.99
1 x MSI HD 7850 Twin Frozr III OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Cards w/ Nexuiz, Sleeping Dogs & Dirt Showdown PC Games £161.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard with FREE BOOGIE BUG XXL GAMING MOUSE MAT £129.98
1 x Intel 330 Series 120GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive - Retail £83.99
1 x OCZ ZT 650W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular Power Supply £69.98
1 x Seagate Barracuda 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DL002) £64.99
1 x Cooler Master Silencio 450 Midi Tower Case - Black £49.99
1 x Cooler Master Hyper 612S CPU Cooler (Socket LGA1366/1156/1155/775/AM3/AM2+/AM2) £32.99
1 x GeIL EVO Leggera 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (GEL38GB1600C9DC) £29.99
1 x Samsung SH-224BB/BEBE 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
Total : £837.38 (includes shipping : £11.25).



Comes to the same price as your original spec roughly and kept your mobo and case choices. Just goes to show there are plenty of ways to skin a cat

 

[Uncle Petey]

We're running out of cats

No xfire, but you do get a 7950.

YOUR BASKET
1 x OcUK HD 7950 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with FREE Sleeping Dogs PC Game £219.95
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £184.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £84.98
1 x Adata S510 120GB SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive - Retail with Acronis True Image £64.99
1 x Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 32MB Cache WD10EALX - OEM £64.99
1 x OCZ ZT 550W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular Power Supply £63.98
1 x BitFenix Shinobi USB3.0 Gaming Case - Black £42.98
1 x Cooler Master Hyper 612S CPU Cooler (Socket LGA1366/1156/1155/775/AM3/AM2+/AM2) £32.99
1 x GeIL Black Dragon 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (GD38GB1600C11DC) £28.00
1 x OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £13.99
Total : £816.85 (includes shipping : £12.50).

 

[Cpukid]

Thanks for the massive help guys, several considerations for this, my son who is 15 has been saving up for a long time for this, he has limited knowledge as I, I have not built a PC for about 5 years, but farely confident I could assemble this, not to fussed about the overclocking abilities although it would be nice to set it up once for peak performance, thinking about getting the cheaper mobo as duel prob wont be used, the sort of games he will play : skyrim, COD and minecraft. I also intend to get on it for HD video editing. Hope this gives a better idea

 

[stulid]

Thanks for the massive help guys, several considerations for this, my son who is 15 has been saving up for a long time for this, he has limited knowledge as I, I have not built a PC for about 5 years, but farely confident I could assemble this, not to fussed about the overclocking abilities although it would be nice to set it up once for peak performance, thinking about getting the cheaper mobo as duel prob wont be used, the sort of games he will play : skyrim, COD and minecraft. I also intend to get on it for HD video editing. Hope this gives a better idea

What resolution is the monitor?


Cutting down on the board and upping the GFX,


YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £184.99
1 x MSI GeForce GTX 660 OC Twin Frozr 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £179.99
1 x Samsung 128GB SSD 830 Desktop Series SATA 6Gb/s KIT with Norton Ghost - (MZ-7PC128D/EU) £89.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £84.98
1 x Antec High Current Gamer M 520W "80+ Bronze" Modular Power Supply £69.98
1 x Toshiba (7K1000.D) 1TB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA100) £59.99
1 x Cooler Master Silencio 450 Midi Tower Case - Black £49.99
1 x GeIL EVO Leggera 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17000C11 2133MHz Dual Channel Kit (GEL38GB2133C11DC) £35.99
1 x Alpenföhn Matterhorn Pure Edition CPU Cooler (Socket LGA2011/1366/1155/1156/775/ AMD AM3/AM3+/AM2/AM2+/FM1) £27.59
1 x Samsung SH-S222BB/RSMS 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black/Silver/Biege) - Retail £14.99
Total : £811.08 (includes shipping : £10.50).




You can use this to compare how a i5 2500K is at various tasks compared to a i7 2600K (the 3570K and 3770K will just be an increase of theses graphs respectively)

 

[Cpukid]

1280 x 1024 but he will prob get a new one for xmas

 

[stulid]

1280 x 1024 but he will prob get a new one for xmas

Thats low, if you got him a new 22/23 or 24" screen, then they are mostly all 1920x1080 resolution which the 7850/660 will easily cope with.

 

[honosuseri]

Thanks for the massive help guys, several considerations for this, my son who is 15 has been saving up for a long time for this, he has limited knowledge as I, I have not built a PC for about 5 years, but farely confident I could assemble this, not to fussed about the overclocking abilities although it would be nice to set it up once for peak performance, thinking about getting the cheaper mobo as duel prob wont be used, the sort of games he will play : skyrim, COD and minecraft. I also intend to get on it for HD video editing. Hope this gives a better idea

You're welcome

Have a look at the software you are using. If your editing software makes use of CUDA then getting a i5K and the nvidia 660 GPU makes sense for your needs. You also get Quicksync to help with video encoding which uses the CPUs IGP (integrated graphics) to boost the process. Providing you have software that supports quick sync of course.

I thought I should mention I used the Coolermaster 612S as it's fan and design is geared towards being quiet. The case you chose has sound proofing so I figured noise was an issue to you (the CLC hinted this aswell). The 612S also includes a reusable tube of paste and has the brackets supplied to fit an additional fan to improve the cooling performance if desired later.

Not that the Matterhorn is a bad heatsink for the price, infact it should cool slightly better than the 612S. However the fans are mounted with wire clips which i find a pain in the backside and you only get enough to fit one fan, although the heatsink could mount another if you had the clips. It also only has a one use sachet of paste supplied if that makes any odds to you.

Stulids RAM is great for the price. I used the slower GEIL kit but to be fair the GEIL black dragon RAM is cheaper still and infact overclocks quite well past it's stated 1600mhz.....not that running RAM faster than 1600mhz makes much odds on this 1155 socket.

I look forward to seeing your next spec. Any questions or god forbid problems come build day...... you know where to find us

 

[Idleman]

As no one has mentioned an OS, are we to assume you have one?

 

[Cpukid]

Yes have win 7 to put on it, busy day today but will pick this up once I get home, once again thanks for your help.
Noise isn't such a issue with the build my son will sleep through anything LOL

 

[Schizo]

regarding the construction of the pc,im sure if your near someone on here they will pop round and give you a hand,there are some nice guys on here (like myself ) and im sure someone will help locally.