Finally relised that i am being used by work

Stinky

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I have finally realised what i dive i am working in.

Basic background:

I work for a local estate agent, and have done from about april 2006, i started then as a trainee neg working just saturdays. then i moved onto saturdays and wednesdays. untill january 2007 when i started full time.

When i first started it was great appart from the money (7k) . i was getting the sales the boss was loving it, since then obviously the pay is commision based and with the market slowing this started getting tough. but i kept plugging away getting the sales which eventually 2 months into full time landed me a 2k payrise and a swift move onto % commision rather than a flat fee.

Since then i have been earning my commison and its been fine, however as you all know the market at the moment is shocking and the commision / sales are harder to achive, i have now been moved to a new office in a little village, which is even quieter, i was moved here to replace another guy that has left. Now i am required to commute 20miles each way a day (rather than the 2 minute walk from my house before) i have to pay my own petrol to and from work and they pay the milage whilst at work.

Obviously as i am on 9k a year it works out at £750 month before commision and before tax and NI. so take home without commison is roughly £650. i am now doing 400miles roughly a month more than i was before so obvioulsy using a hell of a lot more petrol that i am paying for. :(

Sorry for the long post but please bear with me.

Over chirstmas and at the staff party my collegues from the office i first started in told me something which got my back up. My boss in that office had told on of the other directors that i was (and had apparently agreed to..) not recive any of the commioson on sales that where still in progress in that other office. I have never agreed to such a thing, why would i want to chuck away so much money????

This was overheard by my colleuges and they are discusted by the way i am getting treated and have informed me of every sale of mine which has completed whilst i have been at the new office (still the same company) which is very nice of them so i can keep an eye on my pay.

now after speaking to the other office today. all my collegues are very unhappy about the way we are all being treated.

even to the point where the lady has said if my boss asks me where i heard about not being paid my commision then just say that she told me and informed me of all the sales that i am owed on.

I have the opitunity here to manage to office by the end of the year. but do i want to work for such people?? am i going to find something with the same prospects?? after all i am only 19 and seem to have landed myself a good job from the day i left college.

SOrry for the long post.

rant over, but your thoughts would be appricated.

thanks
 
thats the problem with working down in little old devon. the wages are really shocking.

im not bored of the job at all. im just being paid **** all and being treated like ****, but i like the possiblities in the job, and the other staff etc

Star out ALL swearies - Zefan.
 
well if my boss keeps my commioson its more that the company gets to keep and not pay out.

i have never singed a contract. i now have to leave for work 45mins earlyer and i get home about 30mins later. for no extra money.

when i was told about the new office i was told i could either go there, or they would have to make me redundent, because of how quiet the other office had got
 
PlatinumFX said:
Given the current economic climate, I would suggest your first priority is to keep an income coming in. Obviously your paying the bills so your getting by. Just. That pay is not right but its better than being unemployed.

You should clear up this owed commission business by talking to your boss. It sounds most likely that the company wants to hold onto as much money as possible. Dishonest, unprofessional, despicable. What ever words you want to use; its happened now. They transferred you to anouther office rather than just making your redundant. So clearly they need you. That puts you in a position of influence. See that issue through and hold on to your job is my advice.

With the downturn in the US economy, I wouldn't hold out for a job there either. Last I heard, the housing market and money lending market was taking a bit of a beating. That means less people selling and buying houses (in part because its harder now for them to get and afford mortgages). I am presuming you were looking into continuing your real estate career over there.
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i agree with keeping the postion that i am in. but with the pay being so low it is hard.

as for the commision at the moment i am lucky to get an extra £100 a month on top and then its taxed as well which never helps.

so all in all it is a shocking wage.


as for goign into a job centre the nearest one is where i live which is 20mile away whilst at work. and i work from 9 till 6. leave at 8.15 getting home at 6.30ish.

so its not easy to get into the job centre :(
 
PlatinumFX said:
I think its a little short sighted to be calling for him to resign just yet. By all means look for something better OP. But you'll be lucky to find it currently.

Heres some facts:

- Your getting by. Even if barely.
- You apparently have a good level of job security. They offered a transfer to you, thus they need a person at that office and value your contribution to their business.
- You enjoy the work.
- Your developing some useful skills. You won't do much of that as a cashier.
- You mentioned the prospect of promotion to office manager. Thats some experience potential there which will open many more doors to you.

- The job market and your industry in particular is seeing a fall in growth. Similar jobs to yours will be scarce and what makes you think you'll get better paid doing a similar job elsewhere in North Devon? Would you be prepared to move?

If you can avoid it, dont waste time in dead end jobs. Its just that, a waste of time. Long term, your better off developing your employability.
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after just looking around on job sites there is a national firm recuiting in my area at the moment both in my home town and in 3 areas about 20 miles around. so goign to draw up a CV and see what happens.

those point are all vaild and true. but there is no sense of job satisfaction in this place at the moment!
 
el_dazza said:
Ouch, didn't expect to see this! Don't let your boss catch you out either :p

I'd hold out for the time being, until something comes up which you can actually take! I'm on £12k a year, and I only work at a supermarket, so what you're on is utter pennies for 48hrs/week plus a mile 40 mile round trip every day. Finding a good job round here is so hard, when I left college it took me 4 months to find ANYTHING that wasn't care work, or cleaning work. Try hunting through the Journal, or maybe apply to other estate agents, as you've got almost 2 years experience now. :)
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just been on the phone to a guy that i used to deal with when i was in the other office, he works in another agency. and said i'd seen the job advertised and he said he'd be very keen to talk to me and to drop in my cv asap and he will get his director down for an interview :D
 
el_dazza said:
Whenever, I'm doing sod all all day, still trying to find out stuff for London.
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Not found anything out yet?? fancy heading over for about 7?


On topic again.

i have to hand in a CV plus a note with what salery + Commision rates i'd be looking at getting. i dont have a clue :( how do i work something like that out?
 
Scougar said:
You still have rights as an employee even if you haven't signed a contract :) You merely have to prove that you are 'employed'.

Contract isn't everything, it just 'help's with negotiating and stops you getting ****** on.

What part of Devon do you live in? Have you considered moving?

Matthew
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im in north devon :)

i would consider moving but cant afford it. i currently live at home still so its nice a cheap
 
well i think when i write my letter to the other company i will put that i would expect more than minimum wage. after all i dont want to price myself out the job :(
 
still struggling to price myself.

im think that as it is a commision based job then i should aim for good commision rate rather than basic?? thinking that 11k a year would be good basic to ask for? plus pool commiosoin rather than personal commision
 
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