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I have become so frustrated by two completely different systems having the exact same error that I am offering a financial reward to anybody who can help me.

Apparently the X1900XT and X1900XTX cards can handle games like Far Cry, Quake 4 and Half-Life 2 at maximum settings (1280 x 1024) at consistently high frame rates. But I have had two entirely different systems using these cards which fail to produce this. Changing systems was expensive and I don't want to do it again, so if somebody can solve this issue for me they can earn themselves a payment.

The related topic is here:

Disaster Topic
 
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What windows are you using?

Set your pci express freq to 105mhz

Is super AA or anything turned on at driver level?

Have you installed the dual core patch?

What psu do you have?

Have you tried with minimal hardware attached?
 
Windows XP Home Edition with Service Pack 2.

How do I set the PCI frequency?

All the ATI driver settings are default.

I have the dual core drivers from AMD installed. I have the latest official patches installed for all my games and nothing unofficial/beta.

The PSU in my current PC is a Thermaltake PurePower 560W.

I have tried with minimal hardware attached, but that said the motherboard has a lot of devices taking up PC slots which I haven't disabled.


Thanks for trying to assist.
 
Sounds very much like a drive transfer rate issue to me. First off try uninstalling the NV IDE drivers, and test again. If no results disable NCQ in the SATA drivers and try again. Finally if still no results uninstall the NV SATA drivers as well.

Unfortunately its well known the NV IDE drivers are a steaming pile of **** and can cause issues all over the place.

-Leezer-
 
Duel said:
Wouldn't NV be nVidia? This is an ATI baord mate. If I've misunderstood please correct me.
Click to expand...

Ignore me lol.
Misread the model number ;)

This post does though have the same issues as you, solved by latest BIOS:
http://www.planetamd64.com/lofiversion/index.php/t20652.html

You might also want to try the Omega Drivers- http://www.omegadrivers.net which have always given me better results & lack the bloat of the CCC. (I also note that removing CCC made the FPS go up on the previous system- Linked?)

-Leezer-
 
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Check for any overheating on the card, id imagine its fine though

Update your GFX card drivers

Check you dont have AA/AF forced via your GFX control panel

You got the card set up properly in the BIOS?
 
I'm willing to bet the stuttering issue is related to the dual core, rather than the card. Do you have a single core cpu you could test it with? Have you tried setting the affinity of the game manually?
 
I'd like to see what frame rates people are getting with the same equipment first. Playing those games maxxed at that resolution will produce frame rate dips even on Crossfire.. There are places where the frame rates will be high but they will dip too. By now most of the variables have been adjusted/suggested. I too expected a lot more in certain cases, but the cards won't do everything maxxed out all the time, that's a fact (I have Crossfire so I know).


BTW I'd never ask for any kind of payment, that would be against my better nature, hopefully it would also be against eveyone else's nature here too. though I can understand your frustration hence the thread..


When you say maxxed out what level of AA are you refering to?

AA is a taxing luxury, even on my Crossfire system I can't get away with it on high everywhere.
 
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Thanks for help everyone but I'm as of yet no close to sloving the problem. That said, I haven't tried all the suggestions because I have not yet had time.

I updated the BIOS and I think it may have made a very slight improvement, but if so barely noticable.

Are the motherboard drivers for this just the Catalyst 6.4 (same as the graphics card)?

I installed PC Probe II and it notifed me that the power fan is not spinning and sounds an alarm, then goes back to reporting it acting as normal and continuously makes the switch around. Could this be related to my issue? How should I go about fixing this?

EDIT - in BIOS the fan RPM seems to be normal.

I already have the latest graphics drivers installed and the latest official patches for both games.

In Far Cry I have all settings set to maximum quality at 1280x1024 resolution and 6XAA but no Vertical Sync.

In Quake 4 I have all settings to maximum at 1280x1024 resolution and 4XAA and no Vertical Sync.

Both of those games perform very poorly compared to what I was expecting. For instance in Far Cry, raja and another person's performance in Far Cry was 50% better than mine in a scene we compared in the previous topic (my previous computer performs about the same as this one). The gulf is too wide to be anything but an error.

Both games have the latest patches (Far Cry - 1.33 and Quake 4 - 1.2). I have no unofficial/beta patches or mods (for instance the HDR patch for Far Cry) installed.

How does one set up a graphics card in the BIOS?

All my settings in the CCP are default.

According to the CCP the temperature of the graphics card is always fine.

How do I change the affinity to 1 core?

I realise the system will not perform at very high frame rates all of the time, but atm it is doing so none of the time unless there is nothing happening on screen.
 
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Go to task manager (ctrl+alt+del) and right click on a process. Choose "set affinity" then leave the tick against whatever core you want to do the work.
 
I do not have the time to go through your other thread but even on my P4 3.8 + 7800GTX512 I can get high FPS on both Far Cry (64bit mode on 32bit + HDR) & Quake4 with patch 1.2 & that is @ 1920x1200 which is a lot more demanding than 1280x1024 regardless of CPU.

Try the following:

1: On power up go into the bios and if you do not require them disable the following devices to free up IRQs as a precaution. Serial Port, Parallel Port, Onboard Sound Card, Onboard Game Port, Onboard LAN and any other onboard devices you do not use. Also disable an USB ports so if it says 8 in the bios and you only have 4 USB devices set it to match accordingly.

When you boot up XP it will automatically free up any IRQs used by those unused devices you have disabled. This may or may not fix it on its own if you had an IRQ clash.

2: Ensure that AA is disabled for both games as they can & do slow down a lot when it is enabled.

3: Ensure your HDs are defragmented.

4: See if enabling/disabling vsync makes any difference to FPS.

5: Disable you AV software as this can cause massive slowdowns in games. An alternative is to exclude the installation folders for both games from AV scanning after you know it is safe.

6: Check taskmanager before running the games to see if you have any spyware/malware/virus/trojans running in the background hogging system resources.

7: Check the official tech forums for both games as chances are others have had similar issues if it is hardware clash related.

Provided you have no faulty components @ the very worst case scenario you may need to only get another mobo if it is a hardware clash so you could still sell it and the loss will not be great. No need for you to sell the entire system just work through what the problem is. If you have under warranty items from OCUK call their tech support as they are very helpful and have a lot of knowledge of different systems as they build loads so chances are they may have an easy solution or suggestion.
 
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