Fireplace, fire proof cement and boards?

~Divine~Wind~

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Don
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First off am I actually allowed to do this myself?

old back boiler out leaves me with a terribly uneven and unsightly brick hole :p
Was thinking coat it in fireproof cement and them some fireproof boards?

My other option is just to temporarily board it out with chipboard and paint it, leave it til later down the line, just wondering the possibility of doing it now if its ok to DIY.
 
in the end want a log burner in there, just not sure wether its ok to do or if it needs to be done by someone specific/accredited/certified

Short term, remove fireplace and make it a little less cack looking :p
 
There will be a buildings regulations to check. It is download; I think its this:-

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/BR_PDF_ADJ_2010.pdf

The dimensions must be adhered to. The installation of the flue burner will need accreditation from your local planning office. I believe if you phone them up they should be helpful. Its less than £20; or was in Kent 3-4 yrs ago.

With respect to you doing it yourself; The flue will need checking. A chimney sweep will be able to give you feedback and may offer to help install as summer is afaik a quiet time for them. When checking they'll sweep it and check for debris, check leaching (tar visible on the outside of the breast and possibly smoke test. They'll be so much cheaper to install it than a HETAS registered installer who will rape you on installation charges; they will say they accredit it but that is peanuts. The onlinesales of log burners is quite competitive; again the registered installers will add a huge margin on it. They will insist you need your flu lined but this is not a legal requirement. If you have any queries phone up the HETAS themselves.

I used a registered installer and was not happy at all with the work or charges. They told me that I needed my flue lining as it was a legal and more fool me I believed them. I should have used my sweep and ordered the materials myself with accreditation form the planning office. I would have saved a fortune.
 
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~Divine~Wind~ said:
in the end want a log burner in there, just not sure wether its ok to do or if it needs to be done by someone specific/accredited/certified

Short term, remove fireplace and make it a little less cack looking :p
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I got company in to create fireplace/install log burner but if I were to do it again I would create the fireplace just like you are thinking and get them in to essentially sit teh burner in and then you should be ok for insurance etc

This mob are decent for supplies http://vitcas.com/
 
Cheers for the help so far guys :)

Accordign to the vitcas info I can use the fire cement to render over the bricks, sounds like far less hassle than installing boards/bricks, might be the one I go with, will have a bit more read tho :)
 
For the potential issues it may cause I'd rather not skimp :P
The stuff isnt that expensive in all honesty.
Tub of render and a tub of plaster should suffice, not 100% sure on the flooring side of things yet tho (under where a stove would be.
 
No matter what you use if there isnt enough clearance between the walls and the stove render will crack.
The vitcas stuff is a pain to use , I would recommend using normal render with lime added to help with the heat. (you could also use a mesh)
As for underneath the stove you can use any material that is not flammable as they do not radiate heat downwards at all.
 
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