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a03dugga

a03dugga

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Hey dudes, im building my first Gaming Pc over the next few months (becasue of budgeting) and i just want anyone to give me advice or suggestions. Heres a run-down of what ive got so far okay.
  • Zalman Z7 Plus Mid Tower PC Case - PURCHASED
  • Gigabyte GA-880GA-UD3H AMD 880G
  • geforce gtx 460 786mb OR
  • ASUS Ati Radeon HD 5770 CuCore 1024mb
  • Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2gb) DDR3 1600Mhz OR
  • G.Skill Ripjaw 4gb (2x2gb) DDR3 1600Mhz
  • Zalman CNPS9900LED cooler
  • Corsair TX 650W PSU
  • Phenom X4 965 BE (125W) 3.40Ghz AM3
  • Seagate Barracuda 500gb sata-ii 16mb cache
  • 22x DVD±RW SATA Rewriter
What do you think???
 
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ummmm.

that motherboard is an intel chipset? so wont be AMD cpu fitment, unless you have just typed it wrong?

why the two different DDR3 rams? or is that an option to pick between them?

how about this?

Your basketProduct Name Qty Price Line Total
OcUK Value GeForce GTX 460 768MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £147.99
(£125.95) £147.99
(£125.95)
AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 955 Black Edition "125W Edition" 3.20GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £123.36
(£104.99) £123.36
(£104.99)
Asus M4A87TD/USB3 AMD 870 (Socket AM3) DDR3 Motherboard £86.99
(£74.03) £86.99
(£74.03)
Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX4GX3M2A1600C9) £82.24
(£69.99) £82.24
(£69.99)
Sapphire Pure 625W Modular Power Supply £64.61
(£54.99) £64.61
(£54.99)
Akasa AK-CCX-4002HP Venom CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775/LGA1156/LGA1366/AM2/AM3) £37.99
(£32.33) £37.99
(£32.33)
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (ST3500418AS) £35.24
(£29.99) £35.24
(£29.99)
Sony Optiarc AD-5260S 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £15.99
(£13.61) £15.99
(£13.61)
Sub Total : £505.88
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
DPD Next Day Parcel
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £9.50
VAT is being charged at 17.50% VAT : £90.19
Total : £605.57
 
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stulid said:
ummmm.

that motherboard is an intel chipset? so wont be AMD cpu fitment, unless you have just typed it wrong?

why the two different DDR3 rams? or is that an option to pick between them?
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Uhh yeah ive typed it wrong, sorry, i werent too sure which mobo to be honest.
Ive edited it above, i meant "OR" .
 
stulid said:
how about this?

Your basketProduct Name Qty Price Line Total
OcUK Value GeForce GTX 460 768MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £147.99
(£125.95) £147.99
(£125.95)
AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 955 Black Edition "125W Edition" 3.20GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £123.36
(£104.99) £123.36
(£104.99)
Asus M4A87TD/USB3 AMD 870 (Socket AM3) DDR3 Motherboard £86.99
(£74.03) £86.99
(£74.03)
Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX4GX3M2A1600C9) £82.24
(£69.99) £82.24
(£69.99)
Sapphire Pure 625W Modular Power Supply £64.61
(£54.99) £64.61
(£54.99)
Akasa AK-CCX-4002HP Venom CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775/LGA1156/LGA1366/AM2/AM3) £37.99
(£32.33) £37.99
(£32.33)
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (ST3500418AS) £35.24
(£29.99) £35.24
(£29.99)
Sony Optiarc AD-5260S 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £15.99
(£13.61) £15.99
(£13.61)
Sub Total : £505.88
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
DPD Next Day Parcel
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £9.50
VAT is being charged at 17.50% VAT : £90.19
Total : £605.57
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Great list, Uh with the case ive got i have 1x120mm fan on the front, 1x120mm on the rear and 1x120mm on the left side, for good ventilation, should i remove one.
 
Also, in the future when DX11 is used in the majority of games, will the gtx fall behind.
And will this motherboard be good for future GPU Sli if it only has one x16 PCIe slot??
 
The GTX460 is a much more capable card than a 5770, it easily beats a 5830.

so no it wont fall behind, the 1GB version can get close to ATI 5850 performance.

you can never use sli on a AMD chipset motherboard, no matter which chipset it has.

that motherboard I spec'd because of the Nvidia card, it doesn't even make a good crossfire motherboard.
 
this would be the ATI and crossfire spec.

Your basketProduct Name Qty Price Line Total
Powercolor ATI Radeon HD 5830 PCS+ 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £140.99
(£119.99) £140.99
(£119.99)
AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 955 Black Edition "125W Edition" 3.20GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £123.36
(£104.99) £123.36
(£104.99)
Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H AMD 890GX (Socket AM3) DDR3 Motherboard £104.99
(£89.35) £104.99
(£89.35)
Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX4GX3M2A1600C9) £82.24
(£69.99) £82.24
(£69.99)
Sapphire Pure 625W Modular Power Supply £64.61
(£54.99) £64.61
(£54.99)
Akasa AK-CCX-4002HP Venom CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775/LGA1156/LGA1366/AM2/AM3) £37.99
(£32.33) £37.99
(£32.33)
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (ST3500418AS) £35.24
(£29.99) £35.24
(£29.99)
Sony Optiarc AD-5260S 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £15.99
(£13.61) £15.99
(£13.61)
Sub Total : £515.24
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
DPD Next Day Parcel
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £9.50
VAT is being charged at 17.50% VAT : £91.83
Total : £616.57

the motherboard in that list is a proper crossfire board, and runs both pci-e slots at the same speed.

and the same psu is still able to power that lot and a second 5830, and has enough pci-e cables, because a 5830 needs two 6pin connectors per card, the psu has four.
 
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Ahh yes ive heard it beats the 5770 by a bit.
Ohh my bad, didnt know you couldnt sli on it.
so the motherboards no good for crossfire then.
 
a03dugga said:
so the motherboards no good for crossfire then.
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only AMD motherboards with the 890GX or 890FX chipset do crossfire right.

by "right" I mean, run both cards at the same speed/bandwidth available, whats called symmetrically.

from the older chipsets 790GX/X or FX do it.

all others AMD chipsets if they have two pci slots or not, will only ever run the second graphics card at a much slower speed than the first card.

then theres intel motherboards, which do both sli and crossfire, but again picking the right motherboard that does it right, is difficult, without visiting the motherboards manufacture website and reading the specs carefully.
 
stulid said:
only AMD motherboards with the 890GX or 890FX chipset do crossfire right.

by "right" I mean, run both cards at the same speed/bandwidth available, whats called symmetrically.

from the older chipsets 790GX/X or FX do it.

all others AMD chipsets if they have two pci slots or not, will only ever run the second graphics card at a much slower speed than the first card.
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Ahhh okay thanks, i didnt know that.
See, in the future, im not surewhen, but id want to do crossfire, so you said that the gtx460 easily beats the 5830, if i stick with the gtx460, how long would it be before id need to upgrade cards or something?
 
a03dugga said:
Ahhh okay thanks, i didnt know that.
See, in the future, im not surewhen, but id want to do crossfire, so you said that the gtx460 easily beats the 5830, if i stick with the gtx460, how long would it be before id need to upgrade cards or something?
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I think a GTX460 with 768MB of ram will be good for around two years.

it also depends on the resolution you run your games at, the higher the res, the harder cards have to work.
 
So if i can increase my gpu budget by about 20-30 pounds, and get the gtx 460 with 1gb, will that be a much better choice then?
Id prob be playing games at 1920x1200 at 1080p, a bit lower if im not getting a decent amount of frames.
 
a03dugga said:
So if i can increase my gpu budget by about 20-30 pounds, and get the gtx 460 with 1gb, will that be a much better choice then?
Id prob be playing games at 1920x1200 at 1080p, a bit lower if im not getting a decent amount of frames.
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yes.

it doesnt just have more memory, it has more processing cores and higher clock speeds, that really give it a solid performance gain, almost matching a ATI 5850 in reviews out.

so another £30 on the spec I listed in post #2 for this - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-133-EA&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1830
 
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a03dugga said:
So ^^^ would be better than http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-128-GW or http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-001-PL .
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yep.

if you look through this thread http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18163265 at people who have the palit cards, they are not to happy with either the noise of the fan, and the sudden lack of VRM cooling heatsink( although the review samples had this) the gainward is made in the same factory, and has the same cooling fan(from the looks of it)

the EVGA one cant be any worse! plus that EVGA is cheaper for the same card essentially.
 
aspirins said:
youve forgotten the OS. what games are you playing? i really like counterstrike.
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Uhhh, ive got copies of Win7 Ultimate at hand mate, 64-bit. :)
I doing this build becasue i used to be a fiend for battlefield, and one of my best buds, has always nagged me to do this.
 
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