First build, not posting.

Sam Garlick

Sam Garlick

Sam Garlick

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Hi all, I’m having issues with a new build and I was hoping someone might be able to hope. I am not able to get the motherboard to post at all. I’ve updated the bios to the latest (non-beta) version and reset the CMOS, this hadn’t fixed the issue but it did turn of the CPU led.



Specs:
CPU: Ryen 5900X
MOBO: MSI Gaming Edge WIFI X570.
RAM: 64gb CMK64GX4M2E3200C16 (I know, it’s a lot. But I’m a machine learning scientist who works with large datasets. 64gb still isn’t enough).
GPU: GTX 1060 (I plan to update this but, you know, scalpers…)
SSD: Samsung Evo 970
HDD: 4TB WD Black.



Any help would be greatly appreciated. I've checked the CPU and all the pins seem undamaged, I'm starting to think perhaps the motherboard is faulty. I've also connected the HDMI to the GPU not motherboard since the 5900X has no iGPU and provided power.
 
Most likely your issue lies with the bios flashing. Just hook the board to the psu and use a very old USB stick like 2GB capacity ones or less for the bios flash. Make sure you follow the process exactly to the word.

after usb bios flash is done pull psu off the wall socket and the cmos battery out of the board and short the cmos jumper for 30s then out battery in and install CPU/ram/GPU to boot up the board. And try install 2 stick ram first not all four.
 
pc-guy said:
Most likely your issue lies with the bios flashing. Just hook the board to the psu and use a very old USB stick like 2GB capacity ones or less for the bios flash. Make sure you follow the process exactly to the word.

after usb bios flash is done pull psu off the wall socket and the cmos battery out of the board and short the cmos jumper for 30s then out battery in and install CPU/ram/GPU to boot up the board. And try install 2 stick ram first not all four.
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I've just tried this following that exact order and there appears to not have made a difference sadly. Still no post.
 
Try with only one DIMM and drives removed.
If it boots into BIOS then it's time to try to take next step.
As in making sure to set memory voltage to that specified for those DIMMs (or tiny smidge higher) before adding rest of memory and enabling XMP.
Also those DIMMs might need the absolutely latest BIOS even if beta.


Sam Garlick said:
MOBO: MSI Gaming Edge WIFI X570.
RAM: 64gb CMK64GX4M2E3200C16 (I know, it’s a lot. But I’m a machine learning scientist who works with large datasets. 64gb still isn’t enough).
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That's rather lousy board for CPU heavy usage.
Its CPU VRM (power circuitry) is copypasta from £100 B450 boards and totally substandard for the price and only at OK level.
Instead of Samsung's brand overpriced drive you should have put extra into motherboard for getting Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite or MSI's only good X570 board Tomahawk.
Cheaper Phison E12 based drives would have even given ~2½ times the write endurance of Samsung.
And there's equally little sense to pay super high TB prices from any HDD: Compared to SSDs they all suck with differences being meaningless.
 
EsaT said:
Try with only one DIMM and drives removed.
If it boots into BIOS then it's time to try to take next step.
As in making sure to set memory voltage to that specified for those DIMMs (or tiny smidge higher) before adding rest of memory and enabling XMP.
Also those DIMMs might need the absolutely latest BIOS even if beta.


That's rather lousy board for CPU heavy usage.
Its CPU VRM (power circuitry) is copypasta from £100 B450 boards and totally substandard for the price and only at OK level.
Instead of Samsung's brand overpriced drive you should have put extra into motherboard for getting Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite or MSI's only good X570 board Tomahawk.
Cheaper Phison E12 based drives would have even given ~2½ times the write endurance of Samsung.
And there's equally little sense to pay super high TB prices from any HDD: Compared to SSDs they all suck with differences being meaningless.
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I've tried one Dimm only, didn't help, I've also now tried an older (lower wattage) GPU (GTX 620) which didn't work sadly.

Out of curiosity, what makes it a bad board? What makes the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite better and would you recommend I swap to the Aorus Elite?

The reason I went with 4TB HDD is just because of the large datasets I work with. The main two I'm working with are 300gb and 1.2TB respectively.
 
You have not mentioned what power supply you are using. That is where problems can begin.

Also, if possible, try and re-flash the bios. I flashed the bios of a 2170 pro gaming Asus motherboard, it looked fine, however the bios file was corrupted by a cheap memory stick. I installed the latest bios with a brand new SanDisk one, and the motherboard works perfectly. Also, just because it is the latest bios does not mean it will not have a fault, check to see if there is an earlier compatible bios file.

Try another DDR4 RAM stick, your product looks like Corsair from your code, however sometimes RAM and motherboards may not get on. Try Gskill or look at recommended RAM on the support page for that motherboard.

As mentioned, the last resort will be to try a new motherboard. It is essentially a science experiment. Or eliminating all the options until you identify the cause of your fault.
 
Sam Garlick said:
I've just tried this following that exact order and there appears to not have made a difference sadly. Still no post.
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can you explain exactly how your did the bios flash? just curious as most people are adamant that they followed the instructions to the word but often they paraphrased the instructions and skipped some crucial information and to that extent the flash process has not been done properly and thus the issue.

also are you absolutely sure your PSU is working?
 
VonScar said:
You have not mentioned what power supply you are using. That is where problems can begin.

Also, if possible, try and re-flash the bios. I flashed the bios of a 2170 pro gaming Asus motherboard, it looked fine, however the bios file was corrupted by a cheap memory stick. I installed the latest bios with a brand new SanDisk one, and the motherboard works perfectly. Also, just because it is the latest bios does not mean it will not have a fault, check to see if there is an earlier compatible bios file.

Try another DDR4 RAM stick, your product looks like Corsair from your code, however sometimes RAM and motherboards may not get on. Try Gskill or look at recommended RAM on the support page for that motherboard.

As mentioned, the last resort will be to try a new motherboard. It is essentially a science experiment. Or eliminating all the options until you identify the cause of your fault.
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Sorry for the late reply, I had a load of meetings last night. My PSU is a Corsair CX600M. It's from my last computer so maybe 6/7 years old, I've never had an issue with it and I believe it provides enough power, however, I have ordered a new PSU just to be safe (arrives tomorrow). I've tried on all the memory sticks I own, but I can give it another go. I've checked the motherboard's compatibility list and the RAM should be compatible, annoyingly I have no other DDR4 ram to test with.
 
pc-guy said:
can you explain exactly how your did the bios flash? just curious as most people are adamant that they followed the instructions to the word but often they paraphrased the instructions and skipped some crucial information and to that extent the flash process has not been done properly and thus the issue.

also are you absolutely sure your PSU is working?
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The exact way I've been flashing the bios is as follows:
  1. Completely wipe a memory stick and format it as FAT32 (Master boot record).
  2. Copy the bios file and rename to "MSI.ROM"
  3. Put the USB into the Flash Bios USB port.
  4. Turn off the Motherboard but keep PSU connected.
  5. Remove GPU, CPU etc...
  6. Press the flash bios button which turns on the board, the led on the USB and the flash bios LED begins flashing.
  7. Roughly 5mins later the LED stops flashing and then reboots.
I mostly sure the PSU is working, but I've ordered a new one just to make sure.
 
Its either faulty memory, a PSU on verge of failure, or a broken motherboard/bad bios flash. Sometimes CPU socket can be damaged, this will also prevent posting, AMD CPU's can suffer bent pins, hope you inspected the CPU pins.

Oh and just to be sure. Make sure the 24 pin power slot is secure AND the CPU power slot is in.

Also, CPU fan, if CPU FAN is not plugged in, this will prevent some motherboards failing to post.
 
Sam Garlick said:
Out of curiosity, what makes it a bad board? What makes the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite better and would you recommend I swap to the Aorus Elite?
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The terrible VRM makes it a bad board. If you have an option to return it then I would do that. The X570 Tomahawk is far superior, and the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite is fine too. The B550 Tomahawk is also solid if you don't need wifi.
 
Have you tried different usb stick especially low capacity old USB.

did you pull battery and wipe cmos straight after the bios update?
 
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