First DSLR question

[Phal]

So I keep thinking about splashing out on a half decent starter camera but other than the choice of brand to consider, I also wonder what to do about lenses!

If I was going to start with just one lens, would people recommend just getting the basic lens sold with the camera? Or would people say that buying the body with a better separate lens is the way to go (if you're not limited by the cost)?

I guess those starter lenses are there to be cheap and versatile but I figure I might as well skip the cheap lense if it's going to get replaced eventually anyway and I know what I'm like so it probably would lol.

 

[Phal]

I guess I would probably spend up to 1k for the body/lens or lenses and other bits etc.

Ultimately I would like a half decent macro lens too but before that it would be sensible to get some kind of allrounder lens first I imagine!

Currently leaning towards a Canon 650d despite the slightly inflated prices due to being new. I see some places offering the Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM with the body instead of the normal 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS II. Would that 18-135mm be the kind of thing to look for in a better allrounder?

Also like the sound of that new Canon EF 40mm f/2.8 STM pancake lens but not sure how that would perform as an allrounder when compared to other stuff.

 

[Phal]

I guess the reason I was asking more about the lenses rather than the cameras is that I know I can buy any of the Canon EOS XXX cameras and get reasonable results. The choice seems to come down to budget and preference but you can't really go too far wrong.

The lens part is where I'm not sure what would make a half decent first lens to be used in most situations.

I guess I just want to know whether to stick with the standard lens until I can afford to spend more than £200-300 on a replacement or if something in that price range would be significantly better and able to last me a while.