First ever PC Build/Upgrade

[joe sarge]

Recently upgraded to an RX5700 from a GTX 970, but CPU still struggles with COD Warzone so was thinking I will bite the bullet and upgrade my PC.

Current Build

LG 34UM68 @2560 x 1080 IPS 60GHZ
CPU: i5-4670k 3.4GHZ
Cooler: Hydro Series™ H80i High-Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
MBoard: Gigabyte Z87-HD3
GPU: MSI MECH OP RX 5700
PSU: Corsair CX750
SSD: 128GB
HHD: Internal 1TB (I usually run games off this)
RAM: DDR3 24GB RAM

Upgrades:

CPU: AMD RYZEN 3600 £158
Board: MSI B450 Tomahawk Max £110
SSD: A400 960GB SATA 6GB/S 2.5" SOLID STATE HARD DRIVE £90
RAM: Need recommendation (£70?)

Total: £428

I have a few questions:

- Am I on the right track do these upgrades make sense?
- Do newer CPU need coolers? Can I reuse my old one or do I have to make another purchase?
- New SSD looks like RAM, should I be using those or do older SSD works just as well and are better value?
- How does the pricing looking, could I do better?
- Can you recommend a good value RAM, is 16GB enough?
- Will this be fairly future proof, don't want to have to upgrade again 2 years down the line. I also want to play CyberPunk with this so hopefully, it runs well.

Thanks in advance, I'm glad these forums exist, everyone seems so helpful.

 

[The1nonly1]

Recently upgraded to an RX5700 from a GTX 970, but CPU still struggles with COD Warzone so was thinking I will bite the bullet and upgrade my PC.

Current Build

LG 34UM68 @2560 x 1080 IPS 60GHZ
CPU: i5-4670k 3.4GHZ
Cooler: Hydro Series™ H80i High-Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
MBoard: Gigabyte Z87-HD3
GPU: MSI MECH OP RX 5700
PSU: Corsair CX750
SSD: 128GB
HHD: Internal 1TB (I usually run games off this)
RAM: DDR3 24GB RAM

Upgrades:

CPU: AMD RYZEN 3600 £158
Board: MSI B450 Tomahawk Max £110
SSD: A400 960GB SATA 6GB/S 2.5" SOLID STATE HARD DRIVE £90
RAM: Need recommendation (£70?)

Total: £428

I have a few questions:

- Am I on the right track do these upgrades make sense? Great choice, will be future proof
- Do newer CPU need coolers? Can I reuse my old one or do I have to make another purchase? It'll come with a stock cooler you can use. This will be fine as long as you don't overclock
- New SSD looks like RAM, should I be using those or do older SSD works just as well and are better value? You can use the drives you have. The only difference will be a very slight increase in Windows and games loading times
- How does the pricing looking, could I do better? Ryzen is very good value for money so it's good.
- Can you recommend a good value RAM, is 16GB enough? 16gb is plenty get at least 3200mhz speed, faster if you can. (Depends on motherboard and what it can support)
- Will this be fairly future proof, don't want to have to upgrade again 2 years down the line. I also want to play CyberPunk with this so hopefully, it runs well. Definitely will be fine. Ive upgraded to a 3600 today from a 1600 I had at launch. Had no issues with the 1600 though

Thanks in advance, I'm glad these forums exist, everyone seems so helpful.

Others will reply too but I've given my thoughts on this above on the questions.

 

[EsaT]

Here's that £70 memory kit.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...-channel-kit-black-grey-tdged4-my-09p-tg.html

CPU wise six core is weaker than next-gen consoles coming before Christmas.
Those will come with basically clock speed capped variant of 8 core/16 threads 3700X.

Most CPUs come with stock coolers, and most of them aren't that good.
Though AMD's Wraith Prism coming with higher models would make excellent cooler for only six core.
That Corsair H80 would need AM4 mounting kit.
But with its age pump might not just start after sitting for PC rebuilt.
Marketing purposely neglects to tell that watertube coolers have many degradation processes/wearing parts.
Small and slim radiators don't even have surface area to challenge best heatpipe coolers.

So for there's only little difference in windows/game loading times between NVMe and SATA.
Main thing is SSD instead of old spinning rust.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nvme+ssd+hdd

 

[joe sarge]

Others will reply too but I've given my thoughts on this above on the questions.

Thanks for the input, very helpful

Here's that £70 memory kit.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...-channel-kit-black-grey-tdged4-my-09p-tg.html

CPU wise six core is weaker than next-gen consoles coming before Christmas.
Those will come with basically clock speed capped variant of 8 core/16 threads 3700X.

Most CPUs come with stock coolers, and most of them aren't that good.
Though AMD's Wraith Prism coming with higher models would make excellent cooler for only six core.
That Corsair H80 would need AM4 mounting kit.
But with its age pump might not just start after sitting for PC rebuilt.
Marketing purposely neglects to tell that watertube coolers have many degradation processes/wearing parts.
Small and slim radiators don't even have surface area to challenge best heatpipe coolers.

So for there's only little difference in windows/game loading times between NVMe and SATA.
Main thing is SSD instead of old spinning rust.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nvme+ssd+hdd

Thanks for the RAM recommendation.

I see so next gen consoles will have Ryzen 3700X CPU. I guess the Ryzen 3600 will be good for probably the next 5 years? since games will take time to fully utilise the 3700X? The 3700X is almost double the price of the 3600 so probably not really worth going for it now right?

That's interesting with the cooler, no wonder second hand ebay coolers aren't selling. I guess I will considering looking into a cooler if games get more intensive and will check the temps once in a while.

Yeh I figured SATA will do. Regardless i'm looking at a Sandisk 1 TB X600 SATA 3 & Crucial P1 1TB NVME, since their similar price surely the Crucial is better value, or is there something i'm missing. OR should I just £10 and go for the kingston I listed?

https://www.**********/products/1tb-sandisk-x600-business-class-25-7mm-ssd-sata-30-6gb-s-3d-nand-560mb-s-read-530mb-s-write-95k-84k?utm_source=hotukdeals.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=hotukdeals

https://uk.crucial.com/ssd/p1/ct1000p1ssd8

 

[EsaT]

You're going to need AM4's upgrade path with more cores and improved architecture Zen3 CPUs, if wanting PC last to last five years as any better than low end.

There are already games capable to scaling past 8 cores, like 2018's Assassin's Creed Odyssey.
https://youtu.be/vVjdhXAdKE0?t=1m50s
Only thing holding back bigger game developers has been Intel, who was last decade's way biggest obstacle to advance of game development.
Once next-gen consoles bring strong 8 core into mainstream all bigger games will be made capable to using that.

Maybe even summer's Crysis Remastered pulls similar thing than original Crysis did in 2007...
In case you missed that "Can it run Crysis?" fun, would you believe this is 2007 game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2RRkCaTgZM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl2BrfXpPwM
(horribly crappy video compression)