First gaming rig guidance

wrighty338 · 5 Sep 2013 at 19:16

Hi guys iv signed up as Im wanting to get into PC gaming and want some guidance. If this is in the wrong place i apologise!

Had a look round OC and the latest haswell extreme pc's seem to fit the bill that i want but Im wondering which more experienced people in the business would choose any why?

Theres the choice of the Ultima wrath

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-402-OE&groupid=43&catid=2474&subcat=2481

The Envy 2

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-371-OE

annnd the scimitar

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-368-OE

I dont really know if i NEED a 6gb gfx card like the 7990 in the wrath but id like something that will run things nicely on ultra settings if i chose to. The envy is a lil cheaper which means i could probably tweak the spec and get two 780's put in there if i upgraded the psu (id imagine) to rival the 7990's power of the wrath? if that was the case which would you go for and why? should i just go balls out and max my budget on the Scimitar with porno watercooling?

cheers

snips86x · 5 Sep 2013 at 19:21

Hello & Welcome to the Forums!

What is your budget & can you build yourself?

With that kind of money, I would be looking to build your own rig. You get better value for money and a great project. If you are not comfortable building, you could always get a spec request from us and ask OcUK how much it would cost to build their end.

wrighty338 · 5 Sep 2013 at 19:57

I dont really have a set budget but id be willing to stretch to the price of the scimitar system if needs be. If i said 3k for that, it would take me a couple months to budget for a nice 30 inch monitor to play stuff on

If you think i can do it for cheaper should i be pricing up the parts then? Im a server engineer by trade, dont think building would be a problem but getting it all tidy might be haha! I thought buying one already built would set me up with a good sort of future proof base (as far as future proof pc's go, im aware as soon as they are built they are kinda outta date)

any thoughts/input would be appreciated...l

wrighty338 · 9 Sep 2013 at 00:51

anyone else?

foster grant · 9 Sep 2013 at 01:10

I think you should self build ..and cable management is one of those things i think lots of people are never totally satisfied with...i did mine again today

Fulax · 9 Sep 2013 at 08:04

wrighty338 said:
I dont really have a set budget but id be willing to stretch to the price of the scimitar system if needs be. If i said 3k for that, it would take me a couple months to budget for a nice 30 inch monitor to play stuff on If you think i can do it for cheaper should i be pricing up the parts then? Im a server engineer by trade, dont think building would be a problem but getting it all tidy might be haha! I thought buying one already built would set me up with a good sort of future proof base (as far as future proof pc's go, im aware as soon as they are built they are kinda outta date)

any thoughts/input would be appreciated...l

Build, build, build. You'll get a stonking gaming PC for half the price of the Scimitar. If you're worried about cable management, get a case like this where you can hide most of them around the back: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-143-CS

Besides, OcUK's resident nerd pornographers (see below) will spec you some braided ables that will match the rest of the rig.

Doomedspeed · 9 Sep 2013 at 08:12

A 3k spec with all the trimming, count me in.. Ill post a nice spec when i get home (probably won't even come close to 3k.

)

Ethermaster · 9 Sep 2013 at 08:44

I'm in

except something epic looking when I actually get home from the office

Ripjaw · 9 Sep 2013 at 09:00

If i had 3k to spend this is what it'd be on

YOUR BASKET
2 x MSI GeForce GTX 780 Lightning 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £599.99 (£1,199.98)
1 x Samsung 512GB SSD 840 PRO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7PD512BW) £379.99
1 x Gigabyte G1.Sniper 5 Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £369.95
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £269.99
1 x Corsair Professional Series AX1200 High Performance 1200W Modular '80 Plus Gold' Power Supply (CMPSU-1200AXUK) £219.98
1 x Corsair Obsidian 650D Gaming Windowed Midi Tower Case - Black £129.95
1 x Corsair Hydro H100i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler £103.99
1 x Pioneer BDR-S08XLT 15x BluRay / 16x DVD±RW 50GB Drive - Black (Retail) £79.99
1 x Corsair Generation 2 Sleeved Cable Kit (AXi / AX / HX / TXM) - Green £64.99
1 x Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit - GREEN £59.99
1 x Corsair SP120 Quiet Series High Pressure Low Noise - Dual Pack (CO-9050006-WW) £25.99
Total : £2,921.29 (includes shipping : £13.75).

I kinda went nuts on it :O

This is a bit more sensable and still amazing:
YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI GeForce GTX 780 Lightning 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £599.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £191.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £179.99
1 x Corsair Professional Series AX 760W '80 Plus Platinum' Modular Power Supply (CP-9020045-UK) £149.99
Total : £1,133.95 (includes shipping : £10.00).

Doomedspeed · 9 Sep 2013 at 09:08

Fair enough Ripjaw but there is much better value for money options.

Just you wait OP.

Ripjaw · 9 Sep 2013 at 10:02

Wanted to get mine in before the seasoned builders did lol

Doomedspeed · 9 Sep 2013 at 13:58

For the full 3K something like this:

YOUR BASKET
2 x MSI GeForce GTX 780 PCI-Express 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £499.99 (£999.98)
1 x Dell UltraSharp U2913WM 29" Super-Widescreen LED Monitor - Midnight Grey £459.95
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £269.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £158.99
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £145.99
1 x Corsair Obsidian 650D Gaming Windowed Midi Tower Case - Black £129.95
1 x Antec High Current Pro 750W Modular '80 Plus Gold' Power Supply £119.99
1 x Gigabyte Osmium Mechanical Gaming Keyboard - Red Switch £109.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H100i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler £103.99
1 x Pioneer BDR-S08XLT 15x BluRay / 16x DVD±RW 50GB Drive - Black (Retail) £79.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £74.99
1 x Corsair Vengeance Pro Silver 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-14900C9 1866MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (CMY8GX3M2A1866C9) £71.99
1 x Gigabyte M8000X 6000DPI Gaming Mouse - Black £41.99
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 24pin ATX extension 30cm - White £8.99
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 8pin EPS extension 45cm - White £5.99
2 x BitFenix 6+2-Pin PCIe Extension 45cm - sleeved white/black £5.99 (£11.98)
2 x BitFenix Alchemy Molex to 3x 3-Pin Adapter 20cm - sleeved white/white £5.98 (£11.96)
Total : £2,839.74 (includes shipping : £27.55).

Options:

Drop a 780 (Under £2500)
Add another 8GB of RAM (just for the sake of it)
Go multi moniotr instead of Super-widescreen
Different cable colour (silver/black)

wrighty338 · 9 Sep 2013 at 16:28

wow cheers guys il take a look at these later tonight when works dead

Ethermaster · 9 Sep 2013 at 17:29

I like doomedspeed's spec, I will be having ago when I get home

...red and black, orange and black, blue and black, white and black or something else op?

Sliver · 9 Sep 2013 at 17:42

Nice spec from Doomspeed, but 2x780's is a overkill I think. SLI brings it's own set of potential problems too and I'd personally rather negate them by sticking to a single card. One 780 can still do multi monitor with ease. Spend what you save from the extra 780 on a larger SSD.

Doomedspeed · 9 Sep 2013 at 17:55

Sliver said:
Nice spec from Doomspeed, but 2x780's is a overkill I think. SLI brings it's own set of potential problems too and I'd personally rather negate them by sticking to a single card. One 780 can still do multi monitor with ease. Spend what you save from the extra 780 on a larger SSD.

Personally, if i was getting that spec, id only go with one 780 too.. I just wanted to show he could get 2 under the budget he had (plus a super-widescreen display.

I think 250Gb is big enough for a SSD really, dont you?

Sliver · 9 Sep 2013 at 18:04

Doomedspeed said:
I think 250Gb is big enough for a SSD really, dont you?

It would be big enough for me personally too. However, he gave us a budget to use, so maybe having a 512GB SSD would be a good choice, or even 2x256GB SSD's raided. All my games are on a HDD, but it would be nice having my favourites on an SSD.

Doomedspeed · 9 Sep 2013 at 19:41

Went a bit spec happy (sorry ether)

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI GeForce GTX 780 Lightning 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £599.99
1 x Dell UltraSharp U2913WM 29" Super-Widescreen LED Monitor - Midnight Grey £459.95
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £269.99
1 x MSI Z87 Mpower SP Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £149.99
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £145.99
1 x Corsair Obsidian 650D Gaming Windowed Midi Tower Case - Black £129.95
1 x Antec High Current Pro 750W Modular '80 Plus Gold' Power Supply £119.99
1 x Gigabyte Osmium Mechanical Gaming Keyboard - Red Switch £109.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H100i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler £103.99
1 x Avexir MPower Yellow Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U24001004G-2CM) £79.99
1 x Pioneer BDR-S08XLT 15x BluRay / 16x DVD±RW 50GB Drive - Black (Retail) £79.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £74.99
1 x Gigabyte M8000X 6000DPI Gaming Mouse - Black £41.99
1 x BitFenix Alchemy Premium Modding LED Strip - Connect White 60cm £25.99
3 x Akasa AK-FN059 120mm Ultra Quiet Venom Viper Cool Fan - 3/4 Pin £11.99 (£35.97)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 24pin ATX extension 30cm - Black £8.99
2 x BitFenix Alchemy 8pin PCI-E extension 45cm - Black £6.98 (£13.96)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 8pin EPS extension 45cm - Black £5.99
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 3pin x3 Fan adaptor extension 60cm - Black £5.99
Total : £2,503.15 (includes shipping : £32.90).

Ethermaster · 9 Sep 2013 at 19:57

OK Doomedspeed nicked my idea

but here it is done correctly

Fulax · 9 Sep 2013 at 19:58

Ethermaster said:
OK Doomedspeed nicked my idea

but here it is done correctly

YOUR BASKET
1 x Asus SonicMaster MX299Q 29" Ultra Widescreen Ultra Slim Bezel LED Monitor - Black with Bang & Olufsen ICEpower Speakers £399.95
2 x MSI Geforce GTX 770 Lightning 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £359.99 (£719.98)
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £269.99
1 x Kingston HyperX 3K SSD 240GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive - Na'Vi Limited Edition (SH103S3/240G-NV) £159.95
1 x MSI Z87 Mpower SP Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £149.99
1 x Antec High Current Pro 850W Modular '80 Plus Gold' Power Supply £149.99
2 x Corsair Hydro H100i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler £103.99 (£207.98)
1 x Corsair Vengeance C70 Midi Tower Gaming Case - GunMetal Black £94.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £74.99
1 x Corsair Vengeance K65 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard - Silver - Red Switch (CH-9000040-UK) £69.95
2 x Kingston HyperX NA'VI 8GB (2x4GB) PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit **OcUK Exclusive** (KHX16C9C2K2/8) £61.99 (£123.98)
1 x Corsair Vengeance M65 Laser Gaming Mouse - Black (CH-9000022-EU) £54.95
1 x NZXT CB-LED20-WT 24x White LED Sleeve - 2m £13.99
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 24pin ATX extension 30cm - Black £8.99
5 x Antec TrueQuiet 120 120mm Case Fan £7.99 (£39.95)
4 x BitFenix Alchemy 8pin PCI-E extension 45cm - Black £6.98 (£27.92)
2 x BitFenix Alchemy Molex to 3 x Molex Extension Adaptor 55cm - Black £6.29 (£12.58)
2 x BitFenix Alchemy SATA 6GB/s braided cable 30cm - Black £5.99 (£11.98)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 8pin EPS extension 45cm - Black £5.99
2 x BitFenix Alchemy Molex to 3pin x3 Fan adaptor 7V 20cm - Black £4.99 (£9.98)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy Internal Audio Extension Adaptor 30cm - Black £4.49
4 x BitFenix Alchemy 2pin I/O extension 30cm - Black £3.95 (£15.80)
Total : £2,667.84 (includes shipping : £32.90).

Dat monitor :eek: