First new computer in 10 years, some advice?

[chickadee]

I built my last pc back in 2008, was an x58 system and im still running that, upgraded the GPU and CPU along the way and added an SSD but the base system is the same and i feel like i need an upgrade, my CPU refuses to overclock, it causes non stop hardlocks and blue screens and more than anything i have money to spend and i want a new shiny thing.

So my idea is i want a pc that will last another 10 years so im going to go for a quality platform/cpu, my idea is AM4 with the 2700x, that way its 8/16 so its an upgrade from my 6/12. I think thats a good idea? It seems like its a lot more performance for the cost over intel right?

Now here is where my lack of knowledge is hurting me, what sort of RAM does AM4 like? i read it likes super fast ram but that was gen1, is gen2 still like that or should i get the cheapest and be done with it?

As for boards, there are multiple chipsets, what should i be looking at? I dont want to go cheap here as the motherboard is the most anoying upgrade so if i can i want one with all the features i will need and most reliable, i like gigabyte, they have always been reliable for me and have a UK RMA centre.

And then there is storage, now i have 2 SSD's on SATA2, i will have a m.2 slot on the new board so obviously i want to populate it, maybe just a 120/240gb for the OS/applications BUT what do i go for? Again this tech has passed me by, NVME i think is the fastest right?

I will keep my Nvidia 780 for the time being since i play very few games, last was Watcher 3 and it was perfectly fine, if i need an upgrade i will upgrade down the line.

 

[lltfdaniel]

I built my last pc back in 2008, was an x58 system and im still running that, upgraded the GPU and CPU along the way and added an SSD but the base system is the same and i feel like i need an upgrade, my CPU refuses to overclock, it causes non stop hardlocks and blue screens and more than anything i have money to spend and i want a new shiny thing.

So my idea is i want a pc that will last another 10 years so im going to go for a quality platform/cpu, my idea is AM4 with the 2700x, that way its 8/16 so its an upgrade from my 6/12. I think thats a good idea? It seems like its a lot more performance for the cost over intel right?

Now here is where my lack of knowledge is hurting me, what sort of RAM does AM4 like? i read it likes super fast ram but that was gen1, is gen2 still like that or should i get the cheapest and be done with it?

As for boards, there are multiple chipsets, what should i be looking at? I dont want to go cheap here as the motherboard is the most anoying upgrade so if i can i want one with all the features i will need and most reliable, i like gigabyte, they have always been reliable for me and have a UK RMA centre.

And then there is storage, now i have 2 SSD's on SATA2, i will have a m.2 slot on the new board so obviously i want to populate it, maybe just a 120/240gb for the OS/applications BUT what do i go for? Again this tech has passed me by, NVME i think is the fastest right?

I will keep my Nvidia 780 for the time being since i play very few games, last was Watcher 3 and it was perfectly fine, if i need an upgrade i will upgrade down the line.

I recommend a ADATA SX8200 240gb because price for performance this adata NVMe module is amongst the best for it's price.

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/the-best-money-can-buy.18823258/

But then there is the samsung evo 970 NVMe drive which is also getting rave reviews.

 

[EsaT]

So my idea is i want a pc that will last another 10 years so im going to go for a quality platform/cpu, my idea is AM4 with the 2700x, that way its 8/16 so its an upgrade from my 6/12. I think thats a good idea?

AM4 is also going to be supported by AMD to 2020, so it's going to offer actual upgrade path in CPUs.
(unlike Intel's "renaming of current CPU requires new motherboard" politics)
With CPU competition warming up nicely, performance is just likely going to "expire" before 10 year age.
Or at least AMD is likely to keep pushing forward as much as they can if Intel keeps stumbling.


Ryzen still likes certain type memories if wanting higher memory clocks/speeds.
Team Group's Dark Pro 8Pack Edition should be good if wanting pretty guaranteed high speeds.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...3200mhz-dual-channel-kit-black-my-08l-tg.html

 

[chickadee]

AM4 is also going to be supported by AMD to 2020, so it's going to offer actual upgrade path in CPUs.
(unlike Intel's "renaming of current CPU requires new motherboard" politics)
With CPU competition warming up nicely, performance is just likely going to "expire" before 10 year age.
Or at least AMD is likely to keep pushing forward as much as they can if Intel keeps stumbling.


Ryzen still likes certain type memories if wanting higher memory clocks/speeds.
Team Group's Dark Pro 8Pack Edition should be good if wanting pretty guaranteed high speeds.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...3200mhz-dual-channel-kit-black-my-08l-tg.html

Exactly that, im SICK of intel and their changing sockets, i got my x58 thinking spending a good chunk of change for a top spec platform would mean at least a couple years supports but almost as soon as i got it they dropped it......then its a new socket every year or something, or at least it feels that way, its a slap in the face for the consumers. My friend got an AM3 system when i got my X58 and it bothered me she could upgrade along the way and here i am stuck waiting for some server chips to go cheap. I much prefer the way AMD treats their customers, you spend money and they support the system. I dont know....i was always so pro intel and they make amazing chips but i cant deal with anothing £1000 system becoming obsolete 6months after purchasing it......

 

[Jamin280672]

Exactly that, im SICK of intel and their changing sockets, i got my x58 thinking spending a good chunk of change for a top spec platform would mean at least a couple years supports but almost as soon as i got it they dropped it......then its a new socket every year or something, or at least it feels that way, its a slap in the face for the consumers. My friend got an AM3 system when i got my X58 and it bothered me she could upgrade along the way and here i am stuck waiting for some server chips to go cheap. I much prefer the way AMD treats their customers, you spend money and they support the system. I dont know....i was always so pro intel and they make amazing chips but i cant deal with anothing £1000 system becoming obsolete 6months after purchasing it......

This is exactly the reason I changed side to AMD too, Intels scams all the time, you need a new chipset to run this CPU, oh but its the same socket as our previous 2 chipsets, turns out those 2 chipsets run the latest Intel CPUs perfectly fine, lol, I just wanted to see first what RyZen had to offer, they came leaps and bounds from Bulldozer, so I changed to AMD, ive had a few AM4 boards, started off on RyZen 1700, and I know theres hardly any difference between RyZen 1 and 2 but I cant resist the itch, ive now got a RyZen 2700X, and love it, also went though a few boards too, B350, X370 and X470, im now on the best AM4 board ive ever owned, its a bit pricey but well worth it, its a Gigabyte X470 Gaming 7 WiFi, has everything you'll ever need to last you upto 10 years, the super cool VRMs is one thing I love this board for so much, as as previously mentioned, AMD promised to support the socket until at least 2020, which means the next 2 CPU releases should be a drop straight in with a bios update, that 7nm late 2018 - early 2019 and 7nm+ late 2019 - early 2020 (fingers crossed)

I just got 2 new nvme drives for mine yesterday both 500gb each, Samsung Evo 970's nvme I had 960's before and was actually quite surprised at how much faster the new ones are.

And finally as for RAM, im running 4 x 8gb sticks of G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3200mhz DDR4 here at full speed, RyZen does like fast RAM, I think the limit though is either 3400mhz or 3600mhz, sorry cant remember which one.

 

[EsaT]

Exactly that, im SICK of intel and their changing sockets, i got my x58 thinking spending a good chunk of change for a top spec platform would mean at least a couple years supports but almost as soon as i got it they dropped it...

At least your CPU had soldered heatspreader.
Now Intel puts toothpaste under heatspreaders of even expensive luxury CPUs.