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Hi guys, thought I'd log my first purchase from overclockers and my first pc build.

Also might serve as a help to anyone who hasn't ordered from overclockers before and wants to.

Tiny bit of history as to why I wanted to do this. I grew up around computers as in the 80's and 90's my dad was the only importer where I live. So he used to bring in pc's and write programmes in BASIC etc to sell to shops locally. So as I grew up I always had computers around me. We had an office with 3 or 4 fully set up top of the range pc's going usually that would get updated. My dad, my brother and I would often compete against each other in games like Commander Keen, Crystal Caves etc and similar. We'd start at the beginning, and first one to complete the entire game would win. I had a lot of fun and I continued to game up until the age of around 13/14 where I suddenly stopped.

Now a while later I thought hmm, it would be nice to play again... I spotted Skyrim and a few other games that caught my eye as being JUST the kinda game I like (last game I ever played was Morrowind, albeit briefly). However I thought I'd build myself a simple pc that can play most of the stuff out there and see how it goes.

So I'll start with the good stuff... Overclockers service is brilliant! They listened to me rant on about being unsure of what to pick, then when the products I ordered were out of stock they upgraded them free of charge.

As an international customer, ordering can be a bit worrying. However worry not, two days later it had cleared customs locally and it was here. Nicely packed too.

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Opened up everything and it's all there. Only worry is the keyboard I ordered cheaply (OC UK Basic Keyboard) is missing an enter key. I'm hoping when I hunt through the packaging later I'll find it, however a bit annoying if I don't. E-mailed them to see what they can do, and will update later when they reply.

Other than that however, it's all lovely packaged and photo's will be coming soon.

Oh in case you're wondering why there's two towers, my dad asked me to build him something for him too. So his is going in the Z9 and mine is going in the MS800 Plus. Which I bought for the lovely reason of them being pretty.
 
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Hi guys thanks a lot.

Specs on mine:
Zalman MS800 Plus Midi Tower Case
Gigabyte ATi Radeon HD 7950 Windforce 3X 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard
Corsair 2013 Edition Gamer Series GS 600W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply
Adata Premier Pro SP900 64GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive
Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache
Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3
Prolimatech Megahalems Rev C CPU Cooler (With two Xigmatek Orange Line 120mm White LED Fans, the overclockers edition one)
LiteOn IHAS124-04 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter

My dads:
Zalman Z9 Plus Tower Case with Fan Controller - Black
Intel Core i5-3450 3.10GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor
MSI Z68MA-G45 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155)
Corsair Builder Series CX 430w Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply
Adata XPG Gaming v1.0 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3
Asus HD 6450 SILENT EDITION 1024MB GDDR3
Asus 24x DVD±RW DRW-24B5ST SATA ReWriter - Black (OEM)
Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache


And both are going to be Windows 8
 
Oh I should add mine is now built! Just going to get drop box installed and add some photo's to the log.

Hoping you guys can help me a bit on the fan location as some things I'm not sure about. (Like the rear fan was pre-installed blowing in rather than out? I swapped it round, but perhaps it's because there's only a small front fan blowing in.)

Will get photos of them so you can help me if that's ok.


Oh and one learning curve was that I wasn't aware that the MSI motherboard wont work with ivybridge out of the box, it needs a bios update! So mine is done, but my dads is sitting in pieces. I need to see if I can borrow a sandybridge processor from a friend and flash it. A local shop said they'd do it for 20 quid... but for that I might as well send it back to overclockers or buy a terrible cheap one myself.

I'm now reading through all of the threads on overclocking and interested in learning. Opinions on the builds then? I already wish I'd bought a bigger SSD haha!
 
Sorry for three posts, kept remembering things to type after I post and they don't come straight up. Do all posts get moderated? Or is it a certain thing, like after 50 posts you can post straight away?

Anyways yeah I was going to ask. Drivers.. there are so many!

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77 Extreme4/?cat=Download&os=Win864

Which do I need? I'd imagine the INF, the management one, the audio one etc. Been working through them but not all that sure. Aside from that, my GPU driver I've installed. Is there anything I'm missing? The usb and sata one's I've done too. I don't want to miss anything out.
 
Mine's done now, did it in an evening and was surprisingly easy.

First things first, an update on the keyboard. E-mailed overclockers and they've sent me out another one and not asked for the current one back! This is great for me as sending it over would cost me more than just picking one up from a store locally. Brilliant service by overclockers. I'm really impressed and will definitely be using them/recommend them to anyone.

However now a few questions since I'm very much a newbie to all of this.

I bought a zalman mouse and I can't left click. I need to click both mouse buttons to left click on something. Tried googling and can't get anything. Any idea's?

And secondly, been learning to overclock the last few days. I found a guide to overclocking (and they used the same motherboard and processor that I have) and put it straight up to 4.4ghz, with the same voltage etc they were running (can't remember offhand but it wasn't high) and then ran prime95 for a few hours with no problems. Does that mean it's fine? It seems far too easy to be true... (I'm assuming if it is fine, then it was just luck in finding a guide to the same components, and that my parts overclock nicely perhaps?) If so, and this is ok I might start pushing it up to see where prime crashes. The onboard system that clocks it down when it's not needed is awesome too, means my temps while idle/browsing the web are 26 degrees for the CPU. Pretty awesome.

Aside from that, here's a couple photo's. Apologies for quality, photo's taken on my phone.

The parts for both builds (mine on the left, dads on the right).
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My components closer up.
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My dads.
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Set up outside the case to test boot and check it was fine. Only one fan on though :)
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Motherboard and psu in... SO many cables, modular would have been ideal since my cabel management is terrible.
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Weird that the motherboard doesn't reach all of the standoffs... I followed the guide in the case for ATX however it doesn't quite reach the side ones. I did see while googling that people were saying this motherboard is slightly shorter that most normal ATX ones, so I guess that's it? (Asrock z77 extreme4).
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And here we have everything in. Some horrible cable management I know! I put the pci-e cables routed out of the back, but because of the thickness of the ends they wouldn't fit with the side back on, so had to poke them back into the case. Going to try and sort it out some time later.
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Will try and get some nicer pics once I can borrow a camera or something, it's rather underwhelming in these mobile pics, however looks quite nice in real life.

Although I feel the colour scheme is a bit rubbish. Because of my budget I chose parts over colour lol so ended up with a mix.

Any advice or criticism is welcomed. Thanks for reading my first build.
 
In case anyone notices I did swap the cpu cooler fan around so it's now blowing out the back of the pc not into it.

This mouse problem is really annoying! I've swapped left and right so that I'm able to click on things using the rights side. But I'm not sure what's wrong? It's not like the left side does nothing. If I click the left side (and hold it in) it holds the pointer on screen where it is. If I move it around while holding it in, it stays there however when I let go it moves to wherever it was moved to.

Anyone come across this problem? I feel bad asking overclockers again, especially as it might be my stupidity lol.
 
i suggest spinning the cpu fans around so they are blowing out the back of the case mate.

Damn someone else noticed! hahaha. Already have. I took those pics the moment I set the pc up and then realised I was an idiot. I actually took the rear fan out and swapped it so it blew the wrong way... I should have known zalman would have got it right not me.

Either way, now I have both cpu fans and the rear fan blowing out the back. The top fan blowing out also. The front fan blowing in, and the little middle fan directing air into the 7950... which I'm not sure is all that worthwhile?

Also what's the max voltage I should avoid overclocked at 4.4ghz? I'm hitting 1.29 max and that seems a bit high since there's people with much lower voltage at the same clock. Temperatures however seem fine. Not ran prime for that long yet only an hour but it was 40 degrees at that.
 
Also realised that pic doesn't have the little fan underneath the GPU that blows in that zalman includes. It's a bit useless it seems though, I'm wondering whether to move it into the front and make it another intake since the only little one there seems a bit small.
 
Swap out the blue fan on the top for a red/orange one and you'll be good to go! :p

Enjoy that 7950, its a beast. Nice build :)

Haha I should! I was going for an 'original' black and blue theme at first but when I saw that cooler and fell in love with it I had to have it. I could possible swap it for an orange one and then move the blue one to the HDD bays as another intake (and possibly take the led's off it).

Thanks though and I am enjoying it so far. Got bioshock and crysis free with it but can't download them yet for some reason! I want to test it out ;)
 
Throwing another fan as a front intake wouldn't be a bad idea. The Windforce cooler on that 7950 is bloomin' huge anyway :p

Hah awesome! Yeah I did a little bodge and put the other fan into the front bays as an intake. I want orange fans now after it being mentioned before :P

As for the windforce cooler, agreed. It's on 33% most of the time according to speed fan. I manually set it to 100 to see how loud it was... think jet engine.

A few first days notes. Turns out 4.4ghz isn't stable for me yet. Playing a game for a few hours and it crashed. Dropped to 4.3ghz and it was fine for the next few hours. Really need to leave prime on overnight... (but the led's make my room so bright!)

I WISH I'd bought a bigger SSD. I bought the tiny 64gb SSD thinking it would be ok for an operating system and a game or two. But it's full already. Skyrim just decided to add a 9gb update too... which I can't install as it's full. Having a bit of trouble installing my HDD too, windows doesn't seem to find it. (I didn't install it at the beginning due to lack of sata cables).

Oh and my dads install has come to a halt due to being totally unable to find ANYWHERE that can flash the bios or has a sandybridge processor to lend me. Wow it's annoying. I'm happy to do it if they let me borrow one or something. However everywhere I go either doesn't have one, or makes excuses.

Oh and even though I'm a noob... after patiently explaining that it needs a bios update to work with ivybridge processors, but I don't have a sandybridge processor to flash it with and could they please put one in, and flash it with the usb drive that I have in my hand (I thought I'd make it as quick and easy as possible for them...) I then get asked a plethora of random questions.

"Let's get it out then and see what's missing" (But... I just told you?)

"Oh right is the seal on the heatsink ok?" (Huh? I wanted a bios update?)

"Oh... when we get stuff like this we just take it elsewhere and bring it back to charge you" (Wow...)

Is it really that difficult? lol I reckon I'll end up buying a new z77 motherboard for my dad.
 
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Finally found somewhere that will flash the bios on the other motherboard.

Said it would be 15-20 quid depending on the time it takes... it really shouldn't take more than 10 minutes or so considering I supplied the bios on a usb drive.

Ah well, going to go back in a bit to see and hopefully I can get going building my dads pc over easter.
 
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