First time on AMD CPU since Barton. Bios and OC confusion.

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Hi everyone. I'm in the process of building an AMD system for the first time in god knows how many years, last one was Barton CPU. I've been rocking 5ghz Intel chips for a long time now and find overclocking them so easy, but moving to AMD has me massively confused on what's going on.

So for starters. Whilst I'm waiting on my 5900x to arrive, been pre ordered since December 12th, I've popped a 3950x in a MSI X570 Tomahawk with 32gb of 3600mhz memory. I was shocked to see at first when jumping in to bios that the stock default value is 1.45v...yes 1.45v!!!!. So doing lots of thread reading on how to overclock or get the voltage in check, it looks like you shouldn't need any more than 1.25v to 1.3v to get a stable 4.1 or 4.2 all core overclock. Now I'm not going to bore you all with the 50 times I've restarted bios with different settings after various attempts at benching, running Ryzen Master, the new CRT tool tonight, nothing seems to work when I enter a core speed multi regardless of voltage I throw at it. So I thought, stuff this everything auto let's see what happens.

Now this is what I don't get. Why is it when I leave voltage to auto (1.45v) and clock frequency to auto and run cinebench, I get these results below. Core voltage goes nowhere near its maximum and core speed sticks at 3.8ghz? Temps are well in check, only 60c or there abouts. Sorry for crude pic

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I can't understand how by manually setting core frequency any higher than stock results in CTDs when benching to test stability regardless if I use low voltage, high voltage or even auto voltage.

And why is it when I'm doing a single core bench, every core is banging out 1.46v.

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Also trying Ryzen Master auto overclocking mode does nowt, core frequency still sitting at 3.7 to 3.8 with loads of voltage and temperate headroom

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I've watched maybe 6 or 7 Ryzen overclocking videos today, read countless guides and tried all the settings from the guides, this is either a stinking chip or I have issues elsewhere in the build.

Could anyone point me in the direction of a tried and trusted way to at least get a small overclock whilst reducing this bonkers default voltage? Or even explain to me where I'm going wrong.
 
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Try setting PBO in the bios and setting the limit to the motherboard as you're probably power limited, if you really want to push thing then you can up the scaler to x10.

1.45 is fine for single core it's just how AMD chips works.
 
Try setting PBO in the bios and setting the limit to the motherboard as you're probably power limited, if you really want to push thing then you can up the scaler to x10.

1.45 is fine for single core it's just how AMD chips works.

Thanks for the advice. Just enabled PBO advance, set PBO limit to motherboard and tried x4 to start. Clock speed still stuck at 3.8ghz. I thought this board was the go to overclocking King for Ryzen supposedly.

Overclocking Ryzen chips seems a lot more picky than Intel. I guess that's what you get with 16 cores. Just don't get how others are hitting 4.2ghz or 4.3ghz all core on 1.25v when I can't even hit 3.9ghz at any voltage it would seem.

I been spoilt by the 5.1ghz 8700k at 1.24v for to long I think. I've been trying to get my head around it all day.
 
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Zen 2 chips were always a bit underwhelming on clocks, I'm sure you'll find the 5900X more to your liking.
 
Zen 2 chips were always a bit underwhelming on clocks, I'm sure you'll find the 5900X more to your liking.

OK I'm starting to understand this pbo a little now. And I didn't realise there are actually 2 locations for enabling PBO in the bios. I didnt set them both up correctly, I only messed sith the one in the "system settings" page where you get the AMD overclocking warning and not in the voltage section.

And I'm also now understanding the voltage of 1.45v I'm seeing in the bios isn't actually the voltage of each core, that's for single core right?

I'll continue to work it out tomorrow. Thanks.
 
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