First upgrade in a while, have I got this right?

[coolcs]

Hey folks, looking for some advice it’s been a while since I done an upgrade and it’s hard to keep up with the constant changes.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Lian Li O11 Vision Compact Black (SKU: CAS-LIA-02812) = £114.95
• 1 x Asus ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASU-03084) = £468.98
• 1 x G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo EXPO RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-GSK-01356) = £119.99
• 1 x Samsung 990 Pro 4TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe 1.3c Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-SAM-00984) = £309.95
• 1 x Lian Li Galahad II LCD Performance AIO 360mm CPU Water Cooler - Black (SKU: COO-LIA-00531) = £229.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-03517) = £499.99
• 1 x Lian Li EDGE 1000w 80 Plus Platinum Power Supply - Black (SKU: POW-LIA-02360) = £164.99
• 1 x UK Mains Plug with 13A Fuse to IEC C13 Socket Lead, 10A, 2m (SKU: ACC-OCS-01709) = £0.00
• 2 x Lian Li UNI FAN TL 120mm Reverse Flow, PWM, RGB Triple Fan Pack - Black (SKU: COO-LIA-01206) = £69.95

Total: £2,060.72 (includes delivery: £11.98)​

Carrying over my 3070 Aorus until the 50 series GPUs come out, likely upgrading to 5080.

Instead of the GSK CL30 I'm looking at the GSK Royal CL28 kit, from what I understand lower CL is better? Am doing the sensible thing in going for 6000Mhz, I see online that this is the "sweet spot" for this CPU.

The motherboard might be a bit overkill for me as I'm probably not going to upgrade to WiFi 7, but the m.2 slots are useful for the future and I'll probably hang onto this build for a good 5 years. Will likely end up doing some overclocking on this too.

One thing I can't really make sense of is the ATX PSU standards, I've currently got a Corsair cx650 Watt PSU and I'll probably upgrade once 50 series is out.

Swapping out all fans for TL 120 Reverse, maybe throw in x2 LCD TL 120s as the exhaust in the rear, otherwise I'll use the spare fans from the AIO

A bit worried about the case, if the new GPUs are any bigger than the 4090 it might not fit

Any thoughts, guidance welcome! I hope I'm doing this right....

 

[lee32uk]

Hi welcome

Is this just for gaming ? I would stick with 6000MHz CL30 as that is the sweet spot from what I have seen. You probably won't gain much by going with CL28 and the cost is going to be more.

Something like the Gigabyte X870 Aorus Elite Wifi7 would save you quite a bit of money. It still has 4 x M.2 slots and is £200+ cheaper. I personally wouldn't pay much more than £250 for a board.

The WD Black SN850X is a lot cheaper.

Swapped the AIO for an Arctic and the fans to match.

The Corsair RMx is solid for £30 less. It has the native 12v socket for Nvidia as well as it is ATX 3.1.

So something like below saves you £500 for the same performance.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Arctic Liquid Freezer III ARGB High Performance CPU Water Cooler - 360mm (SKU: COO-ARC-01992) = £89.99
• 1 x Lian Li O11 Vision Compact Black (SKU: CAS-LIA-02812) = £114.95
• 2 x Arctic P12 PWM PST A-RGB 0db Black Triple Fan Pack - 120mm (SKU: FG-058-AR) = £34.99
• 1 x Gigabyte X870 Aorus Elite WIFI7 (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-GIG-03319) = £254.99
• 1 x G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo EXPO RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-GSK-01356) = £119.98
• 1 x WD Black SN850X 4TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS400T2X0E) (SKU: HD-592-WD) = £219.95
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-03517) = £499.99
• 1 x CORSAIR RM1000x Gold ATX 3.1 PCIe 5.1 Fully Modular Power Supply (SKU: POW-CRS-02467) = £134.99

Total: £1,504.82 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

 

[Quartz]

For the case, take a look at the Montech King 95 Pro because it comes with five fans.

And is the 9800X3D back in stock?

 

[mickyflinn]

And is the 9800X3D back in stock?

No its pre order

 

[tamzzy]

I hope I'm doing this right....

yes and no.
thats A LOT of money to be paying just for looks. if that's what you're primarily going for, then fine.
but there are better value parts around that will halve the build cost (or you can just go ahead and get a 4080/super with that build right now with that £2k budget)

 

[Tetras]

Any thoughts, guidance welcome! I hope I'm doing this right....

Suggested changes.

Cooling: the 9800X3D CPUs can be air cooled, so you can avoid an AIO unless preferred for looks.
Case: this case comes with 7x 120mm ARGB fans.
Motherboard: still has USB4, PCI-E 5.0 graphics and 3x M.2 slots, but much cheaper and performed well in HUB's X870 roundup thermally. If you don't care about USB4 but prefer Asus, you could switch to Asus Strix B650E-E (4x M.2) / B650E-F.
SSD: similar in performance to the 990 Pro, but much cheaper.
PSU: bumps up the wattage for similar price.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-03517) = £499.99
• 1 x Asrock X870 Pro RS WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASR-03308) = £209.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance EXPO 64GB (2X32GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel (SKU: MEM-CRS-02841) = £194.99
• 1 x WD Black SN850X 4TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS400T2X0E) (SKU: HD-592-WD) = £219.95
• 1 x Antec C5 ARGB Midi Tower - White (SKU: CAS-ATC-02730) = £109.99
• 1 x Asus ROG Strix 1200W Gold Aura Edition Modular 80 Gold ATX 3.0 PCIe Gen 5.0 Powe (SKU: POW-ASU-01808) = £169.99

• 1 x Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE A-RGB White CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-02666) = £39.95

Total: £1,456.84 (includes delivery: £11.98)​

The motherboard might be a bit overkill for me as I'm probably not going to upgrade to WiFi 7, but the m.2 slots are useful for the future and I'll probably hang onto this build for a good 5 years. Will likely end up doing some overclocking on this too.

I understand your thinking, but £470 is one hell of a lot to pay for a motherboard. I'd only pay that for a high-end workstation, or if you're an overclocker/bencher that wants a top-end board like the Apex.

Instead of the GSK CL30 I'm looking at the GSK Royal CL28 kit, from what I understand lower CL is better? Am doing the sensible thing in going for 6000Mhz, I see online that this is the "sweet spot" for this CPU.

The X3D CPUs are not normally sensitive to memory speed, so I'd just get whatever is cheap. Considering the cost of your build I'd just go 64GB now.

One thing I can't really make sense of is the ATX PSU standards, I've currently got a Corsair cx650 Watt PSU and I'll probably upgrade once 50 series is out.

ATX 3.0 PSUs are supposed to be designed to cope with power spikes of modern graphics cards and they come with 12VHPWR cables which are used for nvidia cards from the 4070 Super and up (except for FE, which is almost always 12VHWPR).

ATX 3.1 PSUs will come with a revised connector known as 12v-2x6. There were other changes to the spec, but they're not significant.

You can buy a cable to modify older PSUs (the cards also come with an adapter bundled in the box), but from what we've heard about the 5000 series, 650 watts will be below what is recommended.