Fix batten to wall - what screws and plugs please?

[danlightbulb]

Hi all,

I never remember what plugs and screws are good and what the sizes are. Often end up with a hole too big or weak fixing.

I need to fix a 35mm thick batten to a 100mm thick brick wall.

Simple Im sure, I just want to know what is the right plugs and screws to use please, and what size masonry bit to use.

Thanks

 

[danlightbulb]

Fischer duopower the only plug you'll ever need for anything, 6mm or 8mm or 10mm available.

Agree I am a massive fan of the duopower as well.
My only issue with the duopower is the mess they can make on removal if you really need to remove them.

The only time I use anything else now is if I need to mount something seriously heavy when I will use frame fixings/hammer fixings.

Fischer Duopower Fixtainer

Mixed set of Duopower Nylon Wall Plugs in a stackable re-fillable box. 2 component nylon material. High load capacity 15kg per fixing. Ideal for fixing into solid or hollow walls.Included:• 120 x 6mm• 60 x 8mm• 30 x 10mm

www.toolstation.com

That's great, but what size do I want and what screw size, and what masonry bit size please.

 

[danlightbulb]

Screwing 2x pax wardrobe to it.

35mm quite thick batton because the gap to the back is quite large, wall is not true.

They’re massively overkill for fixing a batten into brick. See my post above and save yourself a few quid.

I have never had any luck with red plugs, always turn in the hole when screwing in.


I already have some 5x100mm screws - that would be 35mm in batten and 65mm in the wall. The top part of the screw is unthreaded - don't know if I need this or fully threaded screws.

 

[danlightbulb]

I have an SDS and some masonry bits.

Yes its anti tilt only but I want it to be strong against the counter weight of the wardrobes as they weigh a bit with doors on.

I don't currently have any plugs of any kind other than some cheapo tat ones I had for years in a poundshop multipack.

 

[danlightbulb]

Cheapo tat plugs will never help.

These are what I use when I want to go deep into something like breeze.
Cannot recommend them enough for heavy stuff.
If your going to be doing a decent amount of these wardrobes then 1 box will probably do your lot.

Used them to screw breeze blocks to the bottom of my self build greenhouse and its quite amazing the hold just 1 gives. (most blocks got 2, but with one screwed on in initial testing I couldn't get it to move)

Rawlplug Nylon Hammer-In Fixings 8mm x 100mm 50 Pack - Screwfix

Order online at Screwfix.com. For fast repetitive fixing with minimal screwdriver work. Manufactured from high quality nylon. Very simple to use with hammer-in drive screw for fast installation. Ideal for fixing skirtings, stud battons to walls and long runs of shelf supports. FREE next day...

www.screwfix.com

Ok cool so is the grey plug itself 100mm long, or is the whole screw 100mm long? Does some of the plug stay in the batten?

Sorry for questions on something so simple but it does my head in how many different products there are and what sizes of drills/screws each one needs.

 

[danlightbulb]

The plug and screw are the same length, well within reason.

You drill through the batten into the wall, hammer in then tighten the screw. I prefer to do more screw tightening than hammering personally.*
If you have a combi drill bit then you would do that in one pass.
If you dont you would drill the hole in the batten, then drill the hole in the wall.
Offer the batten up to the wall, push in then hammer in the fixing. Then tighten by hand.

How do I use and install hammer fixings into masonry or brick - step by step guides

Here is a short guide to show how to install the Timco Hammer Fixings. View the full range and buy online at tradecounteronline.co.uk

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* The final part can bend, especially if you do not drill deep enough. Personal choice however.

So Im just concerned how deep I have to go.

The batten Im fixing will be 35mm.

The wall is 20mm plaster, 100mm brick, 20mm plaster.

So a 100mm long plug, will only be 45mm in the brick if it sits flush with the batten. If it sits flush with the wall, Im nearly through the wall the other side but also then only 45mm of the screw is in the plug so not reaching the end.

 

[danlightbulb]

We moved and refitted two Pax wardrobes. The stability screws go through brackets inside the wardrobe. I did not batten the wali just measured and predrilled and plugged the holes before rebuilding the wardrobes. I used red rawlplugs with no.8 screws 65 to 70mm.

The intention is to stop the robe falling onto you, not stop it moving back as well. It works perfectly well, they are very stable.

So you have a length of screw basically in free air bridging the gap to the wall? I don't like the sound of that, I'd rather things tight, and 35mm is quite a big gap to bridge without something in the middle.

I also need to think how I am going to fill the rest of the gap to the wall and around the ceiling for a fitted look. It won't be easy with how far wonky the walls are. Will take photo later for advice.