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Flagship Gfx cards...

straxusii said:
5870 70% faster than 4870

Same as Nvidia prior generation leaps 8800->gtx280, gtx280->fermi, 7800->8800
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5770 Crossfire 5-10% faster than 5870, £80 cheaper :p

The 5850 should cost £180, the 5870 £250 for the actual performance offered IMO.
 
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I don't think Prices have gone up, I think they have gone back to normal.

For a lot of companies pre recession it was the whole boom or bust mentality and computing hit a golden 1-2years where you could buy 4gb of ram for 40quid, q6600's for £100, 4870 £100, gtx 260 £100. You could build a whole top endish rig for 500 notes. Anyone entering pc hardware at that time could now perceive the current prices to be high as they had no idea what it's been like in the past.

But us old hands know that this isn't high prices it's just normal :)

we all paid 150+ for our DDR1 1gb kits, 300+ for our 6series 7series x8/x18-x19 Series gfx cards.
 
And this whole topic needs to get real, ATI released the best single GPU card by a massive margin and charged £300 for it. Look back in history and you will find that is the cheapest market leader for a long time.
 
mame said:
Not compared to the GTX 400s, I did say over the last generation......

I have no preference with Nvidia or ATI in general, I've owned plenty of both. The GTX 400s have only just been released. When the GTX 260 and 280 were released, everyone laughed at them for their prices. I think the 260 (192 core) was just short of £300 on here. It took the 216 core revision, a couple of good driver updates and a big price drop for them to become a well recommended card. Mine was £140 a year ago. I think the 5770 is a good price. Decent performance and with DX11. After that I think you get diminshing returns for your money. Even the 5850 is almost twice the price. In the past, if you spent double what you could get a good card for (5770), you got something quite special. Fair enough, the 8800 GTX was expensive, but it ripped the x19**s to pieces in just about everything. The x1950s were still about £200 then as well.
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The 5870 is relatively cheap compared against its NV equivalents. The 5970 I think is overpriced. Nvidia have missed the mark to make it competitive for us again (like getting 260s for £110, 4870s for less than £100 etc), ATi have plenty of headroom I imagine to reduce their GPUs more, but Nvidia havent created anything yet to force their hand. I cant believe 285s are still the price they are.
 
rafster said:
The 5870 is relatively cheap compared against its NV equivalents. The 5970 I think is overpriced. Nvidia have missed the mark to make it competitive for us again (like getting 260s for £110, 4870s for less than £100 etc), ATi have plenty of headroom I imagine to reduce their GPUs more, but Nvidia havent created anything yet to force their hand. I cant believe 285s are still the price they are.
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Again, I did say against older cards, not GTX 400. Again, the GTX 260 192 core was £300 on release and laughed at by everyone here. Without going back too far, I have bought an 8800GT for £164 (which quickly dropped to £130) a 4850 on release day for £117.50 and a GTX 260 a year ago for £140, all bought from here. It just doesn't seem much progression if, 12 months after I spend £140 on the 260, I go to Overclockers today and spend £235 on a 5850. The only tempting aspect of it is that GTX 260 auctions still seem to pass the £100 mark most of the time, sometimes getting to about £125-140. I have thought about trying my luck with a buy-it-now of about £120, not that I think it's worth that much but people seem to want to pay that much.
 
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i still have a pair of 8800 GTX's

Seem to handle anythig i dish out.

BFBC2 - 1920 x 1280 all settings whacked up - 40 - 50 FPS

I am finding it hard to warrant my i7 upgrades. :(
 
It's all down to exchange rates as to the cost of the flagship cards. You need to look at RRP is dollars to get a comparison. Factor in the fact that today's money is worth less today (cost of living etc) and flagship cards have never been as cheap.

x1950xtx $449
8800 GTX $599
8800 Ultra $799 :eek:
gtx 280 $649 :eek:
9800 GX2 $599
HD 4870 $299
HD 5870 $379
HD 5970 $599
GTX 480 $499

So the gtx 480 is only $50 more expensive than a x1950xtx was and $100 cheaper than a 8800GTX.

The big difference is we don;t get $2 to the pound anymore so it makes the cards 33% more expensive than they were.
 
Emlyn_Dewar said:
Another one who thinks the prices are roughly the same.
Remember the launch of the 512mb 7800GTX? That wasn't cheap...
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That was $599 in 2005 as well so a gtx480 is $100 cheaper than that.

Also for info here are some earlier cards

x800xt $499 2004

6800 Ultra $499 2004

ATI 9800 pro $399 2003

GeForce FX 5800 Ultra $399 2003

So I still say that flagship cards have never being cheaper.
 
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