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chesterstu

chesterstu

chesterstu

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What is the big deal with Flash. I hate anywebsite that uses flash and actively go out of my way not to use sites that are dependent on it. Only really noticed since formatting my HDD the amount of sites pestering me to install it.

I think, as a web dev myself, there is so many over options now for interactive sites, why hasnt flash died off. It generates large ott files to download, keeps asking you to download the latest player and generally is a pain in the back side

Down with flash!

Anyone else what to join me?
 
Flash . . . . aah! Master of the Universe!

:D

(no-one?)
 
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Your a web developer yet the only site in your sig is the default template for Wordpress which requires no coding or designing at all to impliment on a site as the Wordpress installer puts it all on.

Personally I think Flash is great and most flash sites don't have to big filie sizes, only the ones that are OTT with animation and sound. I wouldn't use flash as the basis for my site though I think it should be used just for buttons or banners.
 
Flash is only decent for embedded videos ala' YouTube.

Anything else is OTT methinks, specially whole websites.

Rich
 
I only put personally sites in sigs, far to busy with work to worry about changing wordpress templates.My professional sites are owned by another company so dont bother. Don't get me wrong i can develop using action script but it is gettin to much, with the number of sites that use it
 
it's considered unprofessional these days to use flash. there was a while when it was trendy but it was, for the most part, used as a novelty.

it is good for animations in general though - for instance my workmate uses flash to animate arty cartoons for show in galleries and exhibitions. he's moving over to toon boom studio these days though, which is an incredible if under-advertised cartoon animation package.
 
chesterstu said:
What is the big deal with Flash. I hate anywebsite that uses flash and actively go out of my way not to use sites that are dependent on it. Only really noticed since formatting my HDD the amount of sites pestering me to install it.

I think, as a web dev myself, there is so many over options now for interactive sites, why hasnt flash died off. It generates large ott files to download, keeps asking you to download the latest player and generally is a pain in the back side

Down with flash!

Anyone else what to join me?
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Flash is just as flexable as Perl or Java or even HTML, you just need to be tallented with graphics to take advantage of it. So i dont get what your problem with it is.

It doesnt generate large files at all if they're coded and compiled the right way. You can create the same thing as you would with a GIF and i can guarantee unless you're completely handicapped it's gonna be a 3rd of the size. And why is it so hard to download the flash player?! :confused:

You have the "i cant use it, so i dont like it" attitude me thinks.
 
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Flash is just as flexable as Perl or Java or even HTML, you just need to be tallented with graphics to take advantage of it. So i dont get what your problem with it is.

It doesnt generate large files at all if they're coded and compiled the right way. You can create the same thing as you would with a GIF and i can guarantee unless you're completely handicapped it's gonna be a 3rd of the size. And why is it so hard to download the flash player?! :confused:

You have the "i cant use it, so i dont like it" attitude me thinks.
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Just completed a project at work to develop an online flash training system, that used xml to communicate with a MySQL server using php. Flash was the clients idea becuase they liked the UI it could generate. I tried to explain an interface developed using CSS and ajax would be just as effective and work without the need for the flash player.

So i do understand flash but still really hate it, in fact my knowledge only deepens my hatred
 
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Flash is just as bad as java, it's resource hog on anything else than Windows and rarely works properly with browsers other than IE. Never understood why anyone would bother to use flash or java for web stuff, just to achieve couple of annoying features and intros everyone skips anyway. Flash adverts are the worse offenders - in your face, ugly, screen screwing, content blocking animations. I wish it was never invented.
 
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Thats not the fault of Flash.

If it works fine with IE and Windows, then its up to the makers of Firefox and Linux (examples) to make a platform that supports it properly.
 
Insanity said:
Thats not the fault of Flash.

If it works fine with IE and Windows, then its up to the makers of Firefox and Linux (examples) to make a platform that supports it properly.
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Are you sure that's true? What I gathered [indirectly] from Adobe was that it's just too much work/impossible for them to create a port of the current Flash client for Linux, and they're only going to do it when they overhaul the codebase for 8.5.

The fact that they're also having big trouble with 64-bit support on all platforms suggests the problem is quite the opposite. This is the problem you get when a company tries to set its own standards with proprietary code and a closed-source client.

Got too big for its boots.
 
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Thats not the fault of Flash.

If it works fine with IE and Windows, then its up to the makers of Firefox and Linux (examples) to make a platform that supports it properly.
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Are you serious :confused: How can a third-party program's lack of support for a particular platform be anything but that particular third-party's fault?
 
Im very serious.

I mean, who was around first, the makers of Flash or the makers of Firefox/Linux?

If i remember correctly, it was the Flash guys. So, they've made a program that worked fine with the current (at the time) IE + Windows, then in strolls Firefox and Linux. Should Firefox/Linux not have just made their platform work with what was already there, or wait for the guys at flash to rewrite their software just to work on their new and at the time untested platform? I mean Firefox and Linux could have flopped, so that would have been a waste of time for the Flash guys.

Thats my opinion anyway, flame away.
 
But surely its within Adboe's interest to make there product's compatable for Firefox and Linux? They need sales, they are cutting out an ever growing section of there market.
 
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