Flashing the bios

thedude23 · 17 Jun 2011 at 23:22

Thats the fan that fits over the cpu yes? I'll post a pic tomorrow of it

the fan I have that is.

thedude23 · 17 Jun 2011 at 23:26

Plec said:
It sounds like the 'stock cooler/HS' that's suppled with a retail chip - which is fixed by 'push pins'?

If it is, then it may be that one of the pins wasn't fully depressed (or had released iteslf from the MB). As a result one side of the CPU may not have had full contact with the HS (heatsink) - explaining the heat anomoly on core 0.

You may want to consider investing in a better cooler with a bracket and screw method for fixing. The performance will be a lot better and prices start at £22 - Hyper 212 (pre-appled paste too). Although i would spend a bit more and get the Gelid.

Ya its fixed by push pins but there all tightly secured,it doesn't move or anything.

Plec · 17 Jun 2011 at 23:27

thedude23 said:
Thats the fan that fits over the cpu yes? I'll post a pic tomorrow of it the fan I have that is.

It's the whole thing - heatsink and fan - don't worry about posting an image it's almost certainly a stock HS.

Something similar to this - link?

thedude23 · 17 Jun 2011 at 23:29

Plec said:
It's the whole thing - heatsink and fan - don't worry about posting an image it's almost certainly a stock HS.

Something similar to this - link?

yup similar to that

Plec · 17 Jun 2011 at 23:37

thedude23 said:
Ya its fixed by push pins but there all tightly secured,it doesn't move or anything.

That may be so, but the push pin method is a b%stard - and can look/feel like it's securely fitted when it's not (i hate this method personally - but more so on third party coolers).

All 4 pins may be fully depressed but if the MB warped during fixing (normal but can cause problems) or if you didn't fix it using the diagonal method (or even if you did) - this can cause poor contact between the HS and CPU (and can be undetectable by eye - but shows up via temp readings).

Either way you definitely had/have a heat issue and hopefully the reseating of the HS wil fix it.

Consider a new HS if you have the funds - if not be sure to use the diagonal method when refitting.

Best of luck.

thedude23 · 17 Jun 2011 at 23:43

Plec said:
That may be so, but the push pin method is a b%stard - and can look/feel like it's securely fitted when it's not (i hate this method personally - but more so on third party coolers).

All 4 pins may be fully depressed but if the MB warped during fixing (normal but can cause problems) or if you didn't fix it using the diagonal method (or even if you did) - this can cause poor contact between the HS and CPU (and can be undetectable by eye - but shows up via temp readings).

Either way you definitely had/have a heat issue and hopefully the reseating of the HS wil fix it.

Consider a new HS if you have the funds - if not be sure to use the diagonal method when refitting.

Best of luck.

Thanks for all the advice I appreciate it

Plec · 17 Jun 2011 at 23:48

thedude23 said:
Thanks for all the advice I appreciate it

No worries - i hope the re-fit sorts out your problems - if it doesn't post back.

thedude23 · 17 Jun 2011 at 23:54

Plec said:
No worries - i hope the re-fit sorts out your problems - if it doesn't post back.

oh dont worry I'll be back if it doesn't work

thedude23 · 21 Jun 2011 at 20:42

Hi
So finally got some thermal paste today,applied it to the cpu and when I booted up I went straight into the bios and the temperature for the cpu went up to 59 and sat there?what do ye think?still too hot?

Plec · 21 Jun 2011 at 21:13

What cooler have you got sat on top of the CPU?

I would go into winodws and monitor the idle temps with Core Temp then run 5 minutes of prime and watch. If temps start getting too warm cancel the run. Post back results.

How did you fix the HS and what method did you use when applying the TIM?

thedude23 · 21 Jun 2011 at 21:23

Plec said:
What cooler have you got sat on top of the CPU?

I would go into winodws and monitor the idle temps with Core Temp then run 5 minutes of prime and watch. If temps start getting too warm cancel the run. Post back results.

How did you fix the HS and what method did you use when applying the TIM?

Cooler is Similar to this http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=SP-001-IN

what do mean prime?I have core temp.

the last Q,Do you mean how did fix the thermal paste?

Plec · 21 Jun 2011 at 21:31

thedude23 said:
Cooler is Similar to this http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=SP-001-IN

You have an intel cooler but it should still do the job at stock settings.

what do mean prime?I have core temp.

Down load a program/app called prime 95 (stress test app) and then run it for 5 minutes and monitoir the temps. As mentioned before if the temps start to rocket terminate the run.

If your idle temps are high in windows (over 45 degrees) don't even run prime just post back. (don't worry about running prime - if your cpu overheats it will throttle back - or even turn off the compter.)

thedude23 said:
the last Q,Do you mean how did fix the thermal paste?

How did you fix the HS - when fixing the HS, using the pushpins, did you use the diagonal method - i.e. fix one corner and then the opposite corner?

And how did you apply the thermal paste - a rice size blob in the middle of the cpu or did you spread it all over the cpu?

thedude23 · 21 Jun 2011 at 21:37

Plec said:
You have an intel cooler but it should still do the job at stock settings.

Down load a program/app called prime 95 (stress test app) and then run it for 5 minutes and monitoir the temps. As mentioned before if the temps start to rocket terminate the run.

If your idle temps are high in windows (over 45 degrees) don't even run prime just post back. (don't worry about running prime - if your cpu overheats it will throttle back - or even turn off the compter.)

How did you fix the HS - when fixing the HS, using the pushpins, did you use the diagonal method - i.e. fix one corner and then the opposite corner?

And how did you apply the thermal paste - a rice size blob in the middle of the cpu or did you spread it all over the cpu?

Diagonal method I think my brother was helping me.

A nice sized blob in the middle of the cpu

Plec · 21 Jun 2011 at 21:45

thedude23 said:
Diagonal method I think my brother was helping me.

Sounds good.

thedude23 said:
A nice sized blob in the middle of the cpu

Right, the letter 'r' is nowhere near the letter 'n' - so you meant to type 'nice' sized blob?

Is a 'nice sized' bigger or smaller than a baked bean?

You may have applied too much paste which would account for the high temps - although you still need to do a windows run...

thedude23 · 21 Jun 2011 at 21:50

Plec said:
Sounds good.

Right, the letter 'r' is nowhere near the letter 'n' - so you meant to type 'nice' sized blob?

Is a 'nice sized' bigger or smaller than a baked bean?

You may have applied too much paste which would account for the high temps - although you still need to do a windows run...

ah crud,Its possible I did put on too much but my brother said it was an ok amount,he also said I should leave the computer off for a few days to let the paste settle?,I must say though those push pins are a bitch to get in place

Plec · 21 Jun 2011 at 21:55

thedude23 said:
ah crud,Its possible I did put on too much but my brother said it was an ok amount

Well if it was closer to a baked bean or bigger then it's too much - and will compromise performance (low heat transfer so high temps).

thedude23 said:
he also said I should leave the computer off for a few days to let the paste settle

No, you can use it straight away. What paste did you buy - as AS5 takes time to cure but your system needs to be on for it to do this?

thedude23 said:
I must say though those push pins are a bitch to get in place

Have you thought about buying a third party cooler which has screws - approx £20. It's performance would be way superior to the stock cooler, quieter and easier to fit.

Plec · 21 Jun 2011 at 21:58

Read the above post first... (meant to edit)

Oh, and refit your HS using only a rice sized blob - don't worry about testing do the reseat first.

How did you clean the HS and the CPU?

thedude23 · 21 Jun 2011 at 22:06

Plec said:
Well if it was closer to a baked bean or bigger then it's too much - and will compromise performance (low heat transfer so high temps).

Ya it was bigger than a baked bean,crap.

Plec said:
No, you can use it straight away. What paste did you buy - as AS5 takes time to cure but your system needs to be on for it to do this?

I brought antec sliver thermal,the guy in the shop said it was good.

Plec said:
Have you thought about buying a third party cooler which has screws - approx £20. It's performance would be way superior to the stock cooler, quieter and easier to fit.

Ya I'm seriously thinking about it,I do not like that push pin method at all.

Plec · 21 Jun 2011 at 22:11

thedude23 said:
Ya it was bigger than a baked bean,crap.

OK, you need to reseat the HS - don't do any testing.

You only need a rice/pea sized blob in the middle of the cpu - and then fit the HS on top.

You can use the computer straight away as the AS5 will cure after few days usage (supposedly).

thedude23 said:
Ya I'm seriously thinking about it,I do not like that push pin method at all.

If you only want to spend a minimal amount the Cooler Master Hyper 212 is a great cooler for the money - and comes with pre-applied paste - link

One final thing - how did you clean the HS and the CPU before applying the AS5?

spleenharvester · 21 Jun 2011 at 22:16

Press down on the pins if you can, not too much. Had the same, turned out one pin, although it clicked, wasn't in all the way.