flexible working hours

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hornetstinger

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My employer is using flexible working hours to restricting me in getting another job, ie I'm available for them for many hours a week far more than my contracted hours, and I'm trying to get a job that was outside of those hours when I started and in the interview the manager accepted I was not available 6-9 as I had another job. Then I lost that morning job so got some overtime hours from from the job. However I need another morning job- but the business has opened earlier. So when I go for a interview and inform I got the job, I am threatened that I am not flexible for the company.

What can I do? Apart from getting a full time job and quitting this job?
 
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Explain what you're contracted hours are and that you are flexible with regards to fulfilling them but can't promise more. More than contracted hours is overtime.

My last place wasn't quite so bad but I used to inform them that my loyalty was for sale - and they weren't paying enough. I'm probably not the best person to advise... lol.

Can you not get another job offering fixed hours?
 
Can you not get another job offering fixed hours?
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yes I got one, was offered 18 hours 3 hours a day, and when I informed the manager (2 of those days were what I work) he used the "well we will have to look at your employement here" sort of thing.
 
what sort of work are you after? Can you not get a full time job offering 40hrs? 2 jobs is always going to be a conflict and you need to put yourself in the position where you have the power otherwise it sounds like your manager is a 'do what I say, not what I do'?
 
Have 3 jobs. One is 16 contracted, another 12.5, another is casual and very flexible ie if I don't have saturday work in the 16 hour then I get a few hours on the casual, ie 4-6 which is plenty, also if I'm on holiday on the 16 hour then I can do lots more in the casual as supervisor takes holiday so get quite a few.

Income isn't a problem is just getting third job fixed hours- I had that before and 16 hour job manager understood and accepted me, just hours have been changed and not willing to go back to the old times. I'm more tired now even though I'm doing less hours as the morning shift is moving heavy items, before it was just working in the shop.

Asked 16 hour place for FT contract and he doesn't have any FT positions.
 
I don't know what to suggest really - employers have a duty of care to employees if the work is physical however I'm not sure how that works with you having 3 jobs so don't thik it can apply. Hope you can work it out.
 
I'd also be asking for proof that these hours are required to suit the needs of the business, as without that it's blatantly trying to be difficult.
 
basically he said rotas have been done for 6 weeks so not going change them (new job started next week) only way would be could do new job (for now) if I were to get other members of staff to cover those shifts that conflict with my job. No way to do that. Also I'm a key holder so would need to get another key holder to do early shift, not a non key holder staff member.


I used to do saturday, sunday, and one day in the week and that fulfilled my contract. Now he's put me on mon, wed, fri early, then sunday but taken me off saturday. So more days. That means I cannot get a job mon-fri <9am. Only can get a job work tues, thur, so that rules out the types of shift jobs available. Those jobs don't offer tuesday all day, and thursday all day.
 
Correct. One was 12.5 hour contracts, so that's not enough. Then get another 16 hours a week then got another, and even another casual (zero hour) so sometimes I get 50/60/70 hours week. 16 hour job and casual overtime due to retail & holiday cover
 
That's not flexible working, that uncompensated on-call. Assuming they want you for say 4 hours a day but they want to decide where those hours fall in a 12 hour window at short notice, it's not totally clear from your posts.
 
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My contract is 16 hours a week.

When I started the manager accepted I can work 9am-3pm monday friday, all day saturday, all day sunday. I could not work evenings monday-friday. The shop opened at 9am.

But the store now has 6:30 start so I said I could do it as pretty much I was the only one interested and I do all of the earlies, but now he's made that permenant. Taken me off saturday, rather than giving saturday then earlies. I was not informed that is now required by contract- that I now cannot do earlies then I am not "flexible" enough.

What does UK say about this? If I inform him and give him notice that I cannot do earlies, can he sack me for not being flexible?
 
You don't operate in a vacuum so whenever you want to change your working patterns then it means other people also have to move around. If you'd expressed an interest in doing a 06:30 start and then changed your mind (how soon after moving to this shift pattern did you want to move it around again?) I'm not really surprised that you're getting this reaction.
 
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