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Flogging a dead horse?

Deaco

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Think I already know the answer to this but here goes..

Used to run an OCd i7 920 and decided to get a XEON 5675 and OC that and purchase a new GPU.

Current setup is:

i7920 (to be replaced with Xeon 5675)
18GB DDR3 (3x4 and 3x2)
GTX260 SLI

Now since it was last used about 2 years ago it has manifested a number of issues:

1 of the GTX260 SLI is kaput completely artefacts)
and looks like ram slot 1 on my mobo has died and *cough* not sure how but caught a pin or two when placing new CPU in - so mobo is gone.

Now MOBO can't be RMAd, the GTX260 is an EVGA and still under warranty (interesting to see what comes back).


Now considering I have everything bar the mobo, am I flogging a dead horse to buy another mobo?

Am I better off starting again and flogging the stuff I have? - has CPU/mobo/ram tech come on a lot in the last 7 years? (:D)

The reason I ask is that the old setup CPU wise wasn't a slouch, and looking at the sub forum here and various other websites it didnt seem a bad sidegrade for another couple of years.

Failing that, what route is best to start again as I'm massively out of touch on this new socket/architecture.

Primary use would be gaming (use to encode but less of that now).

Are the newer CPUs happy to OC like times of old as I read somewhere that they are little more fragile?

Any info appreciated - just going to trawl through some second hand x58 mobos
 
Good luck finding another X58 motherboard to begin with, at least for a decent price. You might have no choice but to get a new motherboard and CPU. It's not a great time to buy new with Zen details due in the next month or so. There's also the possibility of finding a Haswell setup on MM.
 
Had a look on the bay and there are a handful, but choice is limited. looks like it's a £40 gamble or £200+

At that price I may as well sell whats here for the rough £300-£400 that it looks like its worth (+Replacement GPU and old GPU (Unless I keep that for Physx - if that still even warrants a seperate card..))

Will have a quick scan of Zen.
 
Deaco said:
Am I better off starting again and flogging the stuff I have? - has CPU/mobo/ram tech come on a lot in the last 7 years? (:D)

Primary use would be gaming (use to encode but less of that now).

Are the newer CPUs happy to OC like times of old as I read somewhere that they are little more fragile?
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Yes, I wouldn't expect replacing the mobo to be economical. The technology hasn't moved on that much, nothing like the preceding 7 years anyway. DDR4 and faster I/O basically.

What you get depends on the budget. The prices of new Intel gaming stuff (unlocked i5, Z mobo) are a bit silly so you might want to look second hand. Also as above AMD's next big thing is out relatively soon.

OCing is a bit more tricky because the CPU does more and more stuff on its own outside of one's control (auto adjusts clock speeds and voltages much more dynamically). They're on a smaller process so might be more vulnerable to heat and voltage.
 
i think its time to upgrade, if my board died i woulndt be hunting for a second hand 7 or 8 year old motherboard.. , if my cpu dies its only £20 for another 920. the GTX260 is also end of life for any new AAA titles. for anything like Day of infamy or counter strike its probably fine, and regarding phsyx does anything use it on a 2nd gpu apart from mirrors edge
 
x58 is a weird one, if you sell it all now you probably won't lose that much money on it. I sold my X58 stuff and actually made £30 profit on what I paid for it several years previous.

Just sell it and get an i5 6600k or wait for Zen.
 
AiiR said:
x58 is a weird one, if you sell it all now you probably won't lose that much money on it. I sold my X58 stuff and actually made £30 profit on what I paid for it several years previous.

Just sell it and get an i5 6600k or wait for Zen.
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His mobo is dead so that leaves him with a i7 920 for 20 quid and some ddr3 ram readily available....

The mobo is the key and not worth the cost...

X58 and 6 core Xeon was a nice upgrade if already on x58

Once one component pegs it then it's time to move on.
 
A decent x58 boards gonna cost around £100+ if you want a hex core+ you looking at a significant investement in an x99 setup either new or used (the entry level x99 cpu- 5820k used are often going for at least £250 on the mm). Other than that its a used x79 setup.

Otherwise wait for zen (which may yet be another AMD disappointment any wont be cheap if it's competitive with the intel x platform)

Worth checking your old mobo under a magnifying glass see if there is any pins you can straighten out to sort out the memory issue? Also check you have not over tigthened the cpu cooler as this sometimes lead to memory slots not being recognised om x58?

Re the evga 260 ... I would say a 750ti should do it as a replacement!

If your mostly going to be gaming an i5 6600k and z170 mobo will see you proud (or the upcoming z270 'union point' chipset boards and a kabylake 7600k)

A z270 board (assuming they keep with the number letter convention for designation) should also be compatible with coming hex core (+?) consumer cpu's.
 
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easyrider said:
His mobo is dead so that leaves him with a i7 920 for 20 quid and some ddr3 ram readily available....

The mobo is the key and not worth the cost...

X58 and 6 core Xeon was a nice upgrade if already on x58

Once one component pegs it then it's time to move on.
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My bad, I didn't read the OP properly... :D

Still sell it on the bay but stress that it is faulty but can potentially be repaired if its just a pin. People will still pay 30 quid or so which will cover some new RAM.
 
Speaking of old x58 boards i still have my Asus P6T Deluxe sitting here doing nothing since i moved to x99, was working fine when last used but don't have a heatsink to test it now.. CBA to remove the NHD15 to try. May as well get a cheapy cooler to try it then sell the board off on its own?

Pointless letting it sit here losing value.
 
Perfect_Chaos said:
Speaking of old x58 boards i still have my Asus P6T Deluxe sitting here doing nothing since i moved to x99, was working fine when last used but don't have a heatsink to test it now.. CBA to remove the NHD15 to try. May as well get a cheapy cooler to try it then sell the board off on its own?

Pointless letting it sit here losing value.
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Do it, you'll get atleast £80 for it.
 
Sell what you have and start fresh. Everything should go. RAM is obsolete, drives are too old to be considered reliable, PSU is too old to be considered reliable.

Sell it all to someone broke and desperate and build fresh. This is my recommended gaming system these days:

i5 6600K
Cooler Master Hyper 212 heatsink (for average overclocks)
or
Noctua NHD14 (for high overclocks)
ASUS Z170-A
2X8GB DDR4 2666
2TB Seagate ST2000
250GB Samsung 850 EVO
GTX 1060 (if you play at 1080P up to 1440P) (1440P on medium settings some games)
or
GTX 1070 (if you play at 1440P and want high settings)
or
GTX 1080 (if you play at 4K or you have a 144Hz+ 1440P display)
EVGA G2 650W PSU
Corsair 760T case (nice, costly case)
or
Corsair 200R (nice, cheap case)
no optical drive (they are quite obsolete)
Win 10 X64 home (on USB drive or purchase key online and make your own USB installer)
 
I'm going to go against grain here, I say take get on the hunt for a motherboard for your x58, even if you have to take £40 gamble I would do it, even if you pay £100 for the mobo, it's a dam sight cheaper than paying £200 for a new CPU and £150 for the motherboard and another £80(?) for DDR4

GPU is a tough call, you obviously need a new one but that is all down to your budget and preference, but if we're going for value the rx470/480 and the 1060 steal the show at 1080p 60hz
 
DONOHUE07 said:
I'm going to go against grain here, I say take get on the hunt for a motherboard for your x58, even if you have to take £40 gamble I would do it, even if you pay £100 for the mobo, it's a dam sight cheaper than paying £200 for a new CPU and £150 for the motherboard and another £80(?) for DDR4

GPU is a tough call, you obviously need a new one but that is all down to your budget and preference, but if we're going for value the rx470/480 and the 1060 steal the show at 1080p 60hz
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Where did you get a new mobo for 150 from ?
 
easyrider said:
Where did you get a new mobo for 150 from ?
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He's off on that one, but his point is still valid to a point. A newer platform is going to be a lot more than a new mobo for x58.

I would still lean towards moving onto a newer architecture rather than investing in a dead one though.

OP, you clearly get the use out if your gear, so think of this as a longer term investment to last you. Otherwise in a year or two you'll be upgrading again anyway. The extra IPC from skylake would be worth it for gaming where really you want faster cores. Most games don't scale amazingly beyond 4 cores anyway. A good i5 would be a good investment now, and you could always drop an i7 in down the line when games are a bit more threaded.
 
Has the op actually tried fixing the bent pins on his motherboard? I would be starting there. There are even services that will replace a bad cpu socket if it is past a simple repair.
 
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