Folding@Home News 23rd - 30th June

dekez · 30 Jun 2011 at 12:50

Team OcUK Folding@Home News 23rd - 30th June 2011

Current Team Position: 34th!!!!!!

Next on the stomping horizon

Team 2ch - 5.8 Months
XCPUs.com - 4.9 Months
Dutch Power Cows - 4.3 Months
EOC Folding@Home Team - 5.2 Months
SAGoons - 4.4 Months

Teams stomped since last news

Team RSF!!!!!!

Ones to keep an eye on

Hewlett Packard - 3.6 Weeks
MozillaZine - 1.6 Years
Clube do Hardware - Brasil - 1.6 Years
Pleasuredome Community - 1.6 Years
Arab_Folders - 11.3 Years

We are currently 25th in team production with 1,409,849 PPD

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Current team score is: 646,600,344
Team weekly dumpage: 9,533,274 (Increase: 1,171,117)
Total members: 2,214
Active members: 79

Weekly Dumpage

# Name Weekly Increase
1 Ba 4,190,486 47,963
2 Biffa 2,526,644 912,426
3 Team_Muck_Spreader 507,980 130,074
4 [OcUK]Delboy 431,156 128,402
5 dekez 260,909 -59,268
6 Brown_Sparrow 253,301 92,291
7 snapsh0t_too 159,119 91,342
8 R5GTT 136,053 -2,446
9 Emilystoodinsomedog****today 81,434 9,433
10 AHameed 78,953 -3,862
11 ToxicTBag 73,069 62,535
12 emailiscrap 71,941 51,431
13 Culinia 71,683 57,463
14 Sir-Les-MP 66,760 -166,537
15 Calm 63,409 30,797
16 Pilgrim57 59,556 -8,858
17 Richy1204 51,370 3,297
18 AdamSimmons 49,435 -5,728
19 rjkoneill 48,144 29,218
20 hellarda 36,900 -10,551
21 ghoztspook 35,090 -11,698
22 LigerZero 28,737 -2,074
23 bmrphygbr 27,645 17,586
24 rich99million 19,906 -4,531
25 steve258 17,981 15,771
26 Daniel_Reid 17,927 2,796
27 Juantjie 16,867 -1,735
28 bl4ck4dd3r 15,392 1,443
29 DarkendViper 14,237 13,650
30 Theophany 11,059 -7,361
31 FatRakoon 10,069 149
32 bm256 8,815 7,853
33 acey1 7,308 0
34 br83taylor 7,030 243
35 tama 6,793 0
36 Styxy 5,597 -2,117
37 adamsalem2k 5,017 -1,264
38 TheDragon 4,327 -27,126
39 Red_and_White 4,200 -1,490
40 EzyRyder 3,951 -1,628
41 LizardKing[OcUK] 3,947 -102
42 PHIL21191 3,944 -17,438
43 petriodet 3,809 2,227
44 polandro 3,541 -219
45 Rincin 2,646 -24,482
46 Hai 2,555 -1,022
47 KALIBR(OcUK) 2,478 97
48 shokichi 1,997 1,997
49 PS3 1,506 1,255
50 Rooney 1,502 -1,255
51 Saetia 1,363 -113
52 Benihana 1,357 -446
53 drewboy1977 1,349 1,349
54 JonGurgul 1,348 -1,280
55 davejuk 1,310 575
56 snapsh0t 1,254 -3,363
57 WobblerJW 1,022 -2,295
58 PS3-Arg 1,004 251
59 jeremysmith123 925 925
60 BookIT 908 0
61 ShaneOsborne 847 -54
62 *** 691 -137
63 froggy 641 89
64 feriso 552 -207
65 noodoo 552 0
66 Hollyk 495 495
67 Babyface_UK 488 90
68 bbau 345 -138
69 swizzle 333 -2,446
70 Robsie 333 0
71 Rim 333 333
72 deej 283 -19
73 PULE3 251 0
74 MajorPart 251 251
75 EMPERADOR 251 0
76 vent 212 -302
77 Kalsius 194 -48
78 Borged_by_MGP 138 0
79 Donna_Marie 69 69

Single Machine League

# Name Weekly Increase
1 dekez 260,909 -59,268
2 ToxicTBag 73,069 62,535
3 emailiscrap 71,941 51,431
4 Pilgrim57 59,556 -8,858

Top 20

# Name Credit
1 Biffa 70,108,314
2 Ba 61,017,742
3 Team_Muck_Spreader 25,309,084
4 Speed 20,503,401
5 Bigstan 18,781,252
6 Stomp_Monster 16,706,147
7 dekez 16,140,636
8 Sir-Les-MP 16,074,459
9 LigerZero 14,384,750
10 magman 12,409,618
11 snapsh0t_too 11,003,977
12 [OcUK]Delboy 10,950,424
13 walls 10,430,275
14 sculptor(OcUK) 10,018,861
15 loudbob 8,589,478
16 Emilystoodinsomedog****today 8,586,170
17 Brown_Sparrow 8,446,911
18 snapsh0t 8,158,508
19 rjkoneill 7,655,104
20 verbal 7,585,651

PPD

# Name PPD
1 Ba 598,641
2 Biffa 360,949
3 Team_Muck_Spreader 72,569
4 [OcUK]Delboy 61,594
5 dekez 37,273
6 Brown_Sparrow 36,186
7 snapsh0t_too 22,731
8 R5GTT 19,436
9 Emilystoodinsomedog****today 11,633
10 AHameed 11,279
11 ToxicTBag 10,438
12 emailiscrap 10,277
13 Culinia 10,240
14 Sir-Les-MP 9,537
15 Calm 9,058
16 Pilgrim57 8,508
17 Richy1204 7,339
18 AdamSimmons 7,062
19 rjkoneill 6,878
20 hellarda 5,271

New Members

acey1
EMPERADOR
PULE3

A warm welcome to the team

Tiffys!

10,000
JonGurgul
tama
50,000
noodoo

Millionaires Club Tiffys:

11,000,000
snapsh0t_too
16,000,000
dekez
25,000,000
Team_Muck_Spreader
61,000,000
Ba
70,000,000
Biffa

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Team stomp people!!!!!

Team RSF have felt the full force of the OcUK boot!

Congrats everyone, production is up a lot from everyone as well so good job there, but lets not relax yet Hewlett Packard are only 3.6 Weeks away :eek:

Anyway here's my tiffy:

ToxicTBag · 30 Jun 2011 at 12:55

Thank you for the news Mr dekez sah much h'appreciated, must admit you had me going for a wee while i started a new thread thinking it was news day and deleted when i realised i was a day early

dekez · 30 Jun 2011 at 14:13

Yes you are alright, you can go back to fabloning

I see Seti's loss has been our gain, nice increase from you this week sir.

ToxicTBag · 30 Jun 2011 at 21:08

dekez said:
Yes you are alright, you can go back to fabloning I see Seti's loss has been our gain, nice increase from you this week sir.

As it happens am about to practice on the door handle before i launch myself at the case

Errrrr wakey wakey Mr frozennova sah i is creeping up and have you in my sights, you cant use the startled bunny headlights excuse or you shall become TBag roadkill :eek:

[Darkend]Viper · 1 Jul 2011 at 10:23

Well I hope my contribution made some difference, i'm planning on upping the output a little for next week, but plans for that are a bit hush hush!! One will soon see!

Whats the best settings for a core i3 machine 2gb ram?

Pilgrim57 · 1 Jul 2011 at 13:09

[Darkend]Viper;19492089 said:
Whats the best settings for a core i3 machine 2gb ram?

Buy more RAM

Sorry can't help as I'm still on a Yorkfield. I'm sure someone else will though.

Impressive tiffy, Dekez. Thanks for the news. I won't ask where you got the stomp photo from

I see Toxic is back & I have only 4.2 years until he stomps me :eek:

Finally sorted out the ssd & seem to be running with consistent stability now so my ppd should rise

Biffa's reposible for 78% of the increase in dumpage :eek:

Frozennova · 3 Jul 2011 at 20:29

ToxicTBag said:
As it happens am about to practice on the door handle before i launch myself at the case

Errrrr wakey wakey Mr frozennova sah i is creeping up and have you in my sights, you cant use the startled bunny headlights excuse or you shall become TBag roadkill

I have to hold my hands up to slacking, the noise and heat are too much to cope with over the summer months, the upgrades since last summer had certainly made things a little toastier. Unfortunatly I'll be out till it starts to cool down again and production will probably be all over the place at best.

dekez · 4 Jul 2011 at 09:09

In case you didn't see this in the other thread:

Vijay Pande said:
For new bigadv WUs, we have changed how the points are calculated to bring them back into balance with the rest of the points in Folding@home. There are more details in this post:

http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=19059

The main jist of the change is that we are decreasing the points associated with bigadv WUs, from 50% over SMP to 20% over SMP. As with previous points changes, this deals with only new WUs to go out, not with WUs that have be collected, etc. I want to stress that the bigadv program is still continuing, but that, as we've mentioned before, this is an experimental program and subject to changes.

It's clear that any change to the points system is controversial, but this one has been raised as a very serious problem by many donors. After investigating the issues raised, we agreed that this was significantly out of balance, and made this change. Moreover, the feedback we have gotten is that we make a change soon and do so quickly, like "removing a bandaid" rather than drag out the pain. I'm sorry to have to make any changes at all, since any change is disruptive, but we (and many donors) felt very strongly that this change was very important.

The other change that we have in mind to do is to bring all classic and GPU WUs into the Quick Return Bonus (QRB) system. This would help further bring all FAH projects into balance. There may be some issues with GPUs and QRB, so we are looking to see what we can do to minimize problems with that before making a change in the points for GPU WUs.

Finally, I would like to remind all that we do listen to donors and take their input very seriously. There has been extensive discussions about the problems with the points system with the huge PPD's seen with bigadv (sometimes reaching 500,000PPD) and the lack of QRB for GPUs being major shortcommings.

Considering the great variety of donor opinions on this matter, it is no surprise that we agree with some donors and disagree with others. Moreover, with points, there will never be any system which makes everyone happy, but our goal is to try our best to balance the project as a whole, taking donor input seriously, and making hard calls when we feel it is necessary. This was definitely a hard call, but hopefully in time donors who disgaree now will come to understand the issues raised by the other donors and appreciate their point of view.

It will be interesting to see how this affects the PPD for different teams, I imagine it will bring the PPD for some of the bigger enthusiast teams down quite a bit.

Personally I think it will be good to see GPUs become competitive again if they bring in a QRB for them, it will be nice to have a few more options when considering a build for folding.

BrownSparrow · 4 Jul 2011 at 11:02

Could those of us with less powerful bigadv crunchers be facing a situation where we'd be better off with standard wu's - ppd wise?

dekez · 4 Jul 2011 at 12:32

I doubt you would be better off in terms of PPD but depending on how it works out, there could be a situation where the amount of extra points from bigadv doesn't make up for the extra hassle (large wu, big loss if they fail, need to run 24/7 etc) involved with completing them.

If there was only a 5k difference I'd be tempted to switch back to standard SMP, but for 10K I'd stick with bigadv. Will have to see what the numbers look like.

BrownSparrow · 4 Jul 2011 at 13:36

dekez said:
I doubt you would be better off in terms of PPD but depending on how it works out, there could be a situation where the amount of extra points from bigadv doesn't make up for the extra hassle (large wu, big loss if they fail, need to run 24/7 etc) involved with completing them.

If there was only a 5k difference I'd be tempted to switch back to standard SMP, but for 10K I'd stick with bigadv. Will have to see what the numbers look like.

That's exactly what i was thinking.

welshdragon · 4 Jul 2011 at 14:24

Well I just accessed SETI@home for the first time since 2000! Downloaded boinc. Obviously things ahve progressed since back then btu it's not downloading any work units. Are there currently no units/server issues?

Once I get it all up and running again will look for team ocuk!

dekez · 4 Jul 2011 at 14:33

This is folding@home

If you post over in the seti news (http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18291633) you'll get a better response but as far as I'm aware you should get work units coming through.

welshdragon · 4 Jul 2011 at 14:42

Cheers dude - reposted in the seti section

didgemaster · 5 Jul 2011 at 07:32

Hi all

Haven't posted for a while. Thanks for the news dekez nice to see an increase in the team rankings but the Hewlett Packard seem to be hot on our tails

Shame about the bigadv bonus decrease, but then if you don't want everybody switching to solely bigadv I suppose they had to make the change. Looks like they're not finished making changes either.

dekez · 5 Jul 2011 at 11:03

You're welcome, yes will be interesting to see how things turn out. Hopefully the dust will have settled by the time I upgrade in August.

On another note, I had a power cut from 10pm-1am last night so my rig was off for the whole night in the end. Very random, apparently a fuse blew in a box a couple of roads over, not had a proper power cut since I was a kid!

BaBa · 5 Jul 2011 at 13:49

Thanks for the news Dekez

My output will be down a fair bit from now on due to the changes in bigadv

I was thinking changes would come, tightening the deadlines and dropping the points for the 6903/4's but didnt expect this.

I think this will rear its head again soon when bulldozer is out 64 core rigs will be doing 1mill ppd even with the changes :confused:

Also think they should have rolled out the QRB to all classes of WU at the same time.

Biffa · 5 Jul 2011 at 14:16

At least its across the board. Yes output is down on bigadv and bigbeta but all teams are suffering and lets face it you still get a pretty good ppd/watt ratio on bigadv on anything over 8 threads (even 8 threads isn't *that* bad)

But the main thing is that its unilateral for all teams crunching bigadv.

Yes the gpu work units are still OTT in credits/size and there may be some merit to the conspiracy theories of Nvidia and Stanford's relationship (can't have people stop buying GPU's for folding!) but whats new there?