Fool the quota management

[Ev0]

I remember way back when in the first year of uni, Napster had just really started to come about.

First term was great (might have been second as well, I forget now), then the uni got some whacking great bills for all the US traffic or something, so it then got blocked

All that got let through on the accomdation connections was web, email, some messenger apps, and that was it.

No games, no p2p (although it was early days for p2p back then), but was still nice having that whacking great connection for things.

That was through 3 years of uni as well, first year halls, second and third year uni self catered flats.

 

[vsmora]

Yes I am.

I'm not angry, I'm just.. confused as to how people are missing my point.

I do not want to abuse the network. It would be all right if ALL users were limited. I just want to either have the same data traffic as the others or better implementation of the surveilence system they have, like do one program at a time, not have general rules which in the end fix some problems and make others, and the general problem remaining.

All the users ARE limited for P2P. LOL at the irony of saying you want everyone to be the same whilst creating a thread asking for ways so you DON'T get limited the same as everyone else. On top of that, you are upset because some users have paid their own money to achieve a workaround for obtaining SOME extra content which, lets be honest, is going to be breaking the uni usage policy anyway. Your argument might have a whiff of validity if the uni limit and workaround had any relevance to your academic studies. Are you also aggrieved that some students have spent more money to get better and/or more booze/clothes/mobile/car/laptop/games, or even legally rent DVDs?

You say you prefer your unlimited 100kb/s home connection? With a max of 32GB/month for ALL your traffic and horrible bandwidth for Skype vidcalls I certainly wouldn't. You'd have to be using Skype non-stop for over 22hrs to reach the 1GB you currently seem to rack up in one day. If you like then we can suggest some sw to install which can limit your uni connection to 100kb/s which you can then (almost) max out without worrying about what you are using it for.

To say that the uni should limit connection speed so users cannot breach the monthly cap is nuts. Why should everyone else who doesn't want to rape P2P all month, have to suffer slow speeds for everything? Besides the fact that you can still use HTTP/FTP at full speed without limit. With regard to the cap "not solving the problem" remember that there are two issues for the uni: cost of bandwidth and legal liability. Content owners rarely kick up a fuss for people purely downloading; if they took you to court they would probably only be awarded damages equivalent to 1 lost sale. Without owning the servers it's also harder to track offenders and thus point the finger toward the uni. P2P inherently distributes the content to many people (so thousands of potential lost sales) and is easier to track (owner can dl from you to confirm you were distributing and via which ISP). The uni is at risk if it openly facilitates illegal sharing. RS and usenet are clearly download systems and uploading cannot happen accidentally.

Many home users have less than 30GB/month with regular ISPs. Tell you what, why not ask your uni if they will disconnect you from the internet and give you a rebate of the £3-10/month they allow for it from your accomodation bill. I'm sure if you explain that the previous month you clocked 1TB they will only be too happy to get you removed from their internet. With the rebate money, you can subscribe to your own leased-line/3G internet connection from one of many providers. We will be only to pleased to hear back how much you prefer the new connection .

 

[Aod]

i'm still shocked that he's downloading copyrighted material on his university connection and still hasn't been cut off!

at my Uni, users caught downloading copyrighted material on the university network get ONE SINGLE warning for their very first infraction of the ITS T&Cs and UA. after this, if they persist on downloading such material they are blocked from accessing anything beyond the intranet for the rest of the year.

that said, on the university connections, actually managing to download copyrighted material is rather challenging, being that the systems network management hardware automatically detects torrent-style traffic and blocks it immediately.

They've even port-blocked WoW this year

 

[RimBlock]

Since the university, guarantees accommodation for over-seas students it should be COMMON SENSE that communication would be of some great importance.

Sure. Why should the Uni pay for it though ?. Food is of great importance as well, do you get that free ?. How about clothes, soap or deodorant (admittedly some people seem to place less importance on the last two) ?.

Gaming on the other hand, might not be that important, but it is a factor that should be taken into account, especially when I cannot opt for a different ISP.

Ahh, so if they are providing subsidised accommodation and a fast internet link then they should also pay for your leisure activities. How about buying you drinks a the local bar too or a holiday every once in a while.

What the university is doing now is forcing people into file services like rapidshare

So the Uni is now ordering you to use Rapidshare or the like in order to circumvent the rules it put in place.

and does not solve neither the copyright problem(which was the sole reason this thing started) nor the bandwidth/data traffic.

It has significantly limited you and a fair few others I would imagine.

So me, and others who cannot afford such services, in the end are left without anymore data traffic due to the fact that I only have 30gb for EVERYTHING, while the rapidshare user has 30gb just for skype/gaming.

Does your tenancy agreement state that you are entitled to unlimited internet access at 10Mb/s 24*7 ?. It is does then that is a different matter.

again people missing the point.

the only thing this has managed to do is promote PAID services and not solve anything rather than cause more problems.

Seems to have solved the problem of you downloading 1TB of data a month.

I fail to see how the implementation of a system like this solves problems.

Affecting the majority can achieve the desired results if those results are volume related. It will also be seen as making a reasonable effort to stop copyright infringement. After the majority of abuse is stopped you start on the ladder of diminishing returns where it costs more for very little effect. The fact is that the Sys admins probably do not really care as long as they get their bandwidth quota down and are seen to combat copyright theft.

People still download through PAID services.. Nothing is solved in terms of bandwidth, just more problems for people without extra money to spend on services.

Err, are you actually at university ?. Do you not see that them 'causing problems for people like you ' is saving them TBs of data charges.

I appreciate my 100kb/s connection more at home because I can download as much as I want and everything is permitted(programs/ports/etc).

How much do you pay for that privilege ?

I do not want to abuse the network.

Many would say that downloading over a TB per month some of it most likely copyrighted and not paid for is in fact abusing the network. With a thread called 'Fool the quota management" I find it hard to see how you think you can claim to not want to abuse the network when the quota management has been put there to prevent abuse.

It would be all right if ALL users were limited.

So inform the University heads and the Uni sys admins that you are aware that people are abusing the facilities and that you will be writing to F.A.C.T. if they do not take action against it. Give a list of the 1,000+ you apparently know to be doing this if you really want to stamp this gratuitous circumvention of University policies out.

Of course if you are just upset because some others can get more than you because they are willing and able to pay for it then welcome to the real world.

If you really don't like the rules then find a room in a student house with their own unlimited access.

RB

 

[jfp]

I was going to say consider yourself lucky, my uni blocked all p2p, torrents even video calling. You could use msn, internet, download using rapidshare and similar stuff but that was it. Hasn't someone at your uni got DC++ up and running to allow for local mass downloading?

 

[KIA]

I'd use OpenVPN and port 443.