Ok this is a bit of random thread but what are peoples thoughts on the current climate of terrace hostilities at football at the moment ? This week we heard of Leeds and Man United fans going to to toe, trading as much filth as possible about Turkey and Munich. Nothing new there, but I get a feeling that some of the stuff that goes with football nowadays north and south of the border goes beyond abusing your nearest rival. Some of the hatred towards opposing teams and players is just sickening.
When Sky took over football they made it into a product to be commercialised all around the world and a lot of the violence associated with it was took off our screens. It never really went away, it was just moved away from the ground as we saw a few years ago with West Ham & Millwall. When you listen to football phone is, the majority of calls is now about condemning fans own players. The Mindset of 'I Pay to go through the turnstiles and that gives me a right to boo and abuse my own team if I see fit' is becoming all too common.
Whenever you look at the results list and look for local derbies, you only need to scratch the surface of the internet to see that some kind of violence and abuse goes hand in hand with the game.
On a personal level I started going to United in the Mid 80s and have seen all sorts in and around the streets of Old Trafford before and after games. Better Policing, Better Seating and Sky saw a lot of this kicked out of the game. Racism I feel is gone but certainly not forgotten but as I say the terrace hatred seems to have gone to a next level. Before anyone thinks I have an agenda on this I don't . I find some of the chants from people associated with Man Utd, Leeds Utd & Liverpool to be beyond the line and all three equally as bad.
Not to single out Leeds on this but I don't see this getting better any time soon. The Daily Fail reports of a video on YouTube of a 4 year old kid being taught the 'Munich' Song. I am 100% sure if you dog deep enough there are videos of kids being taught songs about Heysel, Hillsborough, Turkey, The Pope or whatever. How do you stop the hatred if kids are being taught this from an early age ?? Let's try and have a discussion without this turning into they did this and they did that and singling out teams. The issue is about football in general. Is some of the hatred now an accepted part of our game should it be an accepted part of our game.
When Sky took over football they made it into a product to be commercialised all around the world and a lot of the violence associated with it was took off our screens. It never really went away, it was just moved away from the ground as we saw a few years ago with West Ham & Millwall. When you listen to football phone is, the majority of calls is now about condemning fans own players. The Mindset of 'I Pay to go through the turnstiles and that gives me a right to boo and abuse my own team if I see fit' is becoming all too common.
Whenever you look at the results list and look for local derbies, you only need to scratch the surface of the internet to see that some kind of violence and abuse goes hand in hand with the game.
On a personal level I started going to United in the Mid 80s and have seen all sorts in and around the streets of Old Trafford before and after games. Better Policing, Better Seating and Sky saw a lot of this kicked out of the game. Racism I feel is gone but certainly not forgotten but as I say the terrace hatred seems to have gone to a next level. Before anyone thinks I have an agenda on this I don't . I find some of the chants from people associated with Man Utd, Leeds Utd & Liverpool to be beyond the line and all three equally as bad.
Not to single out Leeds on this but I don't see this getting better any time soon. The Daily Fail reports of a video on YouTube of a 4 year old kid being taught the 'Munich' Song. I am 100% sure if you dog deep enough there are videos of kids being taught songs about Heysel, Hillsborough, Turkey, The Pope or whatever. How do you stop the hatred if kids are being taught this from an early age ?? Let's try and have a discussion without this turning into they did this and they did that and singling out teams. The issue is about football in general. Is some of the hatred now an accepted part of our game should it be an accepted part of our game.
