Football Manager 2008

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Well Football Manager 2008 was released on Friday in the UK and I was wondering if anyone (bar me) picked this up?
I left it the weekend so that anyone who did could comment on it and give their thoughts on it.

Personally I think it's fantastic, it has bettered 2006 and 2007 in so many ways, has totally up to date teams, realistic transfer prices, stricter player statistics and more options and settings to choose from. It's brought together in a fantastic new layout that makes you wonder how you ever did without it in past ones. I'd say it's the most radical leap since Championship Manager 3.

There is a couple of flaws though and they all relate to the stick.
The setting of the left analogue stick is far too sensitive, so much so you can actually trigger movement with literally a couple of mm of movement on the stick.
The problem with this is that unlike the other 2 console releases, you don't scroll to an option, press 'x' and then choose from a list. You now scroll to the option and then scroll left or right to make your selection, however with it being so sensitive you often change the settings of every other option simply scrolling to the option you want to change making it longer to change the important options than in previous releases.
Secondly, when you're trying to sign a player or set a value for a player you now have to scroll from left-to-right to select the value. These values always start at either the players value price, or 0. Now that wouldn't be such a problem if the game didn't go through so many individual prices; 1k,2k,3k,4k,5k,6k,7k,8k,9k,10k etc... It only really starts flying through values when you hit 5m, so it becomes tiresome, especially with the twitchy stick which means you might often accidentally scroll off the value up or down to another option (and change it).
Thirdly, and finally, sometimes the stick ends up with a life of its own, self-scrolling to the very left. This isn't too much of an issue and has happened only 2 or 3 times.

I'm hoping they patch it, but with a 9month wait for the first patch on FM2007 I think it's a case of living with it. It's not that difficult and you get used to having to be very careful. The positives of this release far outweigh the negatives though. Anyone with an interest in Football should get this, it's great.

And please, no "better on the PC" comments, whilst it's brilliant and I've played them all (bar this one) on PC, I won't be agreeing or disagreeing with you. I like relaxing with the joypad (it's excellent with the chatpad) and it's also very, very quick.

Unlike previous releases you don't need a hard-drive either. So not only have they made it faster, more detailed, they've shrunk the gamesave size for MU and removed the need for a HDD and caching. Well done Sports Interactive.

From 9pm Friday night I've already put over 36 hours in.. addictive to say the least. I must say, it's brilliant.
I'm going to put it on now.

For those inclined to ask, I've checked the SIgames forums and no, there is no release for a Playstation 3 version according to staff, I would hazard a guess it's to do with the style of the game, the fact it's one big database and programming it for the Cell.
 
Have been umming and arring about it. But had reservations about the controls. Now you have said that the controls are the let down point I think ill give it a miss.

Im going to try the demo that is on marketplace tonight though and see what its like.
 
Yeah, the controls were perfect in the other 2 releases, as I said the problem comes with the new interface (which is brilliant) and how options are chosen by horizontal scrolling.

It's a problem with the threshold settings on the stick, I'm sure SIGames could sort it out by knocking out a patch in a day if they wanted, simply lowering the threshold would sort it out.

But even with that issue it's still absolutely brilliantly good.
 
Compared to a PC Nokkon, how fast is the game? My mate had FM06 and every other screen it was "processing". I know you said this one is faster but is it massively or just a little bit faster?
 
Yeah I'll give the demo a try, but I had FM 2006 (might have been 07) on the 360 briefly and I just couldn't get over the controls.

I must admit, it took me a while to get used to, but I'd say after a few days it became so natural. I slated it originally for its controls, but having nothing else to play, forced myself to play it and ended up thinking the navigation was genius (seriously, whoever came up with it deserves an MBE).

I was always one of the bunch who said FM could never be done without a mouse or without touchscreen.
 
Compared to a PC Nokkon, how fast is the game? My mate had FM06 and every other screen it was "processing". I know you said this one is faster but is it massively or just a little bit faster?

This is fast for sure. FM2006 on Xbox360 was pretty speedy, but the further you got into the game the more it started to chug. I've completed my first season on FM2008 and it never became a problem, for the most part it blinked on and off so quickly you don't notice it.

I'd say this one does everything quicker, especially gamesaves which are impressively quick.
 
Thanks for the answer, Im definately going to try the demo tonight, might rent it for some quick weekend action. Who knows :p
 
I wasn't sure on this as despite FM2006 being very good on the 360 I thought FM2007 was pretty poor. Decided to get it anyway and I'd have to agree with Nokkon's OP. The controls aren't great, which is odd since they were spot on in 06. But then this is the type of game where you know beforehand that the controls won't be perfect, there's always the pc version for those who that's a real problem for.

As for the actual gameplay, I'm now 3/4 into my first season and there seems to be a couple of what I would consider to be big improvements. First of all, the conditioning of the players is far more forgiving (and I would say more realistic). Since the idea of squad rotation was introduced a few years ago, players have tended to get tired far too quickly for my liking. It had got to the point where you needed a huge squad and still had to rotate large numbers of players weekly, this was pretty much from the start of the season as well which is just bs. I've been able to play the same back four for Utd pretty much all season so far, with just the odd rest here and there (just as Utd have done in real life). This would not have been possible in previous versions, well not unless you're prepared to play players well below 100% fitness.

The game also seems to be a lot less about finding the perfect tactics. That's not to say tactics aren't important, but I've seen some absolutely ridiculous results in previous versions while trying to fine tune my tactics. I've not really seen it in this game yet, so I've either got the perfect tactic immediately, or they've levelled it out so that results like Chelsea 0 - 4 Blackburn (genuine result on my first game on 06 on the pc) won't happen as often just because you've not get everything perfect yet.

Utd finally have a very well balanced squad once again, so that certainly helps me to like the game I'm sure. :D

Anyone who has already enjoyed the previous 360 versions will get sucked back in straight away, and if there's a demo then it's also worth a try for anyone who just wants a decent console footie management game, because this is still easily the best.
 
Totally agree about the conditioning of the players, this is something I forgot to mention. I got to the final of the FA Cup, final of the Carling Cup, Semi-Finals of the European cup and won the league and not one of my players were 'jaded'. Now I did rotate (obviously as you start with a good squad at Man Utd), but Evra played every game and Ferdinand only missed a couple, so right away I could tell that it was far better.

I would say everything has been improved bar the controls, which as I say, are only shown up by the styling of the new interface (as you have to slide left and right and you never had to before).

Do you find it a lot faster to load wedgie? What's your gamertag? I'll give you some games online.
 
Load times are excellent, surprisingly good actually. I don't know if it has been achieved by running a small database, but even if that is the case, a small database in FM terms is still huge by any other standard. I only got the game on sunday and after 2 or 3 not exactly huge sessions, I've already pretty much done my first season.

My tag is wedgie20, I'll give you a game, assuming the online is an improvement over the shower that was FM2006 online.
 
Picked this up last night and whilst its a bit tough to get used to the controls its not as bad as I imagined it to be. Only thing that annoyed me last night was it crashed during the charity shield when I had a healthy lead on Chelsea and I didnt save my game for ages :(
 
I've not encountered a crash, nor have I read reports of it being to do with the game. That could well be your consoles Kyle :o.

Wedgie, you must have flown through your first season! I've done 1 season as Man Utd (obviously), and I'm 1/2 way through the Spanish season with Barcelona. All told I've spent ~55 hours I'd guess, but I've been changing little things with tactics every match, creating training schemes, scouting players and I also like to have "Key Highlights" as opposed to "Only Commentary".

I've not tried it online yet, but from what I've heard it's a definite improvement over FM2006 (which wasn't great, but when there was only me and Haly on it (in the world :p) we had no problems finding each other and playing.
 
I've not encountered a crash, nor have I read reports of it being to do with the game. That could well be your consoles Kyle :o.

I think it might have been a one off, ill try again tonight, I clicked "Stats" to see the shots and possession and that and it just froze. Tried to bring up the guide, waited a few mins then decided it'd crashed.
 
just started playing this on the pc

Same old blooming annoying game, I've had a great season now all of a sudden for no reason I cant buy a goal let alone a win
 
just started playing this on the pc

Same old blooming annoying game, I've had a great season now all of a sudden for no reason I cant buy a goal let alone a win

Didn't bring Keegan in did you?
Sounds like your current season. Great season, then no goals (when Keegan arrived).
 
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