For those that are not voting or do not care

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One thing missing from the referendum poll in the other thread is a choice of "not giving a monkeys"
So who here couldn't give a toss about what's going on in the UK at the moment?
The reason I ask is there is a lot of talk about apathy over politics and young people and I guess there is a large majority of young people on this very board.
So I just wanted to get an insight of how many there are here that wont be voting or will be spoiling the ballot through not really caring what happens
or, well, whatever your reason is...
Oh and to everyone else, lets not hound or dictate to those who do post there thoughts here.
 
I think a lot of it is also a lack of faith in the voting system, fear of corruption or rigging etc - rather than simply not giving a monkeys, to do so, you must be quite ignorant.
 
Democracy breeds selfishness. Nobody votes for what's right, they vote for what suits them best at the time.
 
maccapacca said:
It won't matter either way. Nothing will change. In or out the next day it'll all be the same in one way or another.
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This ^

I am not voting as i don't believe it will have any effect either way.

I certainly do not believe that ;

A) We leave and the UK will spiral into economic meltdown
B) We leave and the UK will magically become a better place
 
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I want us to stay in, I'm a big fan of status quo. However, I kind of want us to leave just to see what happens, how it pans out, and to live through the implications.

Either outcome will not be catastrophic. Something that should have as much coverage as this referendum is computers/robots starting to take over many many jobs. In our lifetime I can see 50% unemployment and leagues of unemployable people because all bottom tier jobs are simply not cost-effective to be done by a human.

Interesting times ahead.
 
I'm still undecided - I have strong principles that we should be working with and developing closer ties with other countries and I also can see right through some of those who want use to leave as it would let them overturn some good regulations that came from the EU that currently provide protection to employees, etc. so voting leave isn't really an option but on the other hand the EU certainly isn't working (for us) as well as it should be and is plagued with corruption so I couldn't vote for remain either.
 
Rroff said:
I'm still undecided - I have strong principles that we should be working with and developing closer ties with other countries and I also can see right through some of those who want use to leave as it would let them overturn some good regulations that came from the EU that currently provide protection to employees, etc. so voting leave isn't really an option but on the other hand the EU certainly isn't working (for us) as well as it should be and is plagued with corruption so I couldn't vote for remain either.
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I'm copying and pasting this as my generic Europe vote response.
 
Craig1981 said:
We already have that. Its called abstaining.
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Yes and no - I think a middle option should be officially present too. Some people might abstain since they CBA to vote,others since they are genuinely undecided or think both sides are meh.

In that sense,if there was a strong middle vote,people are genuinely showing how they are annoyed with the options they have.

People who CBA to vote would not be part of it.
 
maccapacca said:
It won't matter either way. Nothing will change. In or out the next day it'll all be the same in one way or another.
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Exactly the truth. The massive majority of normal people will go to work, pay their bills, have a family and carry on.

It doesn't matter who "makes" the laws or whatever, it really doesn't. Normal people don't change laws or affect systems when entrenched by the rules and regulations of British 2 party democracy.

British people on the whole are just a push over and so conformist. We mock the French but i wish we were more like them kicking off constantly at the first sight of something.

I know this forum is heavily skewed towards young affluently mobile working males but the reality of normal people inst what is preached here. Thank god.

Uk politics is a stagnant, archaic joke. It is no surprise why so many are apathetic indeed and rightly so. What is there to get remotely excited about. Look out for your own interests, vote red or blue every 4 years depending on if you think you are earning higher or lower and have a lifestyle that matches. Boring and almost pointless.

It really ultimately doesn't matter if we leave or stay IMO. Britain will carry on regardless after a period of " turmoil" dreamt up and/or fabricated by money selling, high flying, investment retards in order to short term play the market for some mega quick profits, at the expense of Mr. British Everyman.

So yeah in Short, or rather long, It doesn't matter.... Its just incredibly sad seeing all the xenophobes and nationalists come out of the woodwork at the vague chances of them earning minimum wage from some Polish guy that got off his ass and made an effort. I spit on both of you equally.

There has been nothing great about Britian since 1945... Maybe in 1845? Yes, Britain was great for sure? Maybe 2045 ?

Maybe ill be alive to see. Ill bump this thread.
 
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We shouldn't have a referendum. The public do not understand the issues and the ramifications enough, nor is there enough bias free information available.

Remain, mind. Economically bonkers to leave, but I work in finance so I would say that.
 
Hxc said:
We shouldn't have a referendum. The public do not understand the issues and the ramifications enough, nor is there enough bias free information available.

Remain, mind. Economically bonkers to leave, but I work in finance so I would say that.
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The politicians dont know either, so where does that leave us?
 
I honestly don't think anyone has presented me with a rational, unbiased argument for either camp and at this stage I don't trust anybody! I do feel that there will be advantages and disadvantages to both outcomes, but, if we leave, at least there will be one less layer of bureaucracy. I'm also pretty knowledgeable on the EU's recent firearms legislation and I know for a fact that they have been utterly, utterly bonkers.
 
Hxc said:
We shouldn't have a referendum. The public do not understand the issues and the ramifications enough, nor is there enough bias free information available.

Remain, mind. Economically bonkers to leave, but I work in finance so I would say that.
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Why shouldn't we have a referendum? They had a referendum in 1974 on whether or not we should remain in. People assume we voted to join, we didn't, we' never had a vote to join.

Edward Heath negotiated entry into the then Common Market and then in 1974 the Labour Party kept their election promise to hold a referendum to stay or leave. The result was a 67% decision to stay.

To say the 'public' don't understand the ramifications is nonsense. Do they understand the 'ramifications' when they vote in a local election, or a general election? The 'public' which you are part of are a lot more savvy than politicians or pundits give them credit for - irrespective of your view.

The public tend to know when they've been conned or lied to by Politicians (on both sides) - the result, whatever it may be, is going to be the majority will of the public. That is Democracy.
 
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