Formula 1 Program heads up

zootfloot · 23 Mar 2011 at 21:46

Just in case anyone doesnt know, BBC 4 on Sunday Evening are showing a couple of programs on F1....not sure if they have been shown before but if they have im sure they will be worth another viewing.

8:00pm - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00zwmh2

9:00pm - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00z8v18

Also if anyone is a fan of the older F1 seasons then ESPN classic are showing Formula One Retro intermittently through the weeks, no set times it seems but 1979 and 1980 are shown on Monday lunchtime so it might be worth setting the + Boxes

deuse · 23 Mar 2011 at 22:35

Thanks for the heads up

GravyMonster · 23 Mar 2011 at 22:54

Cheers for the heads up, added to my planner to record as I'll probably be knackered from being up at stupid o'clock to watch the GP

FrankJH · 24 Mar 2011 at 07:33

Cheers for that - one of the programs still mentions the gathering of the 18 ex world champs at Barhain......so hoping its actually still happening ( I cant see if its a repeat or new for 2011)

zootfloot · 24 Mar 2011 at 08:36

I think it was filmed last year at the start of the season.

Ysmalari · 24 Mar 2011 at 09:23

Yup, link says "at the season-opening Grand Prix of 2010"

FrankJH · 24 Mar 2011 at 09:27

opppss so it does, somehow I missed that

smr · 24 Mar 2011 at 20:49

Thanks for the heads-up !

These should be on BBC 1 or BBC 2 !

tummelv · 25 Mar 2011 at 16:12

Thanks for this! Would have missed it otherwise.

ps3ud0 · 27 Mar 2011 at 20:07

Just started...

ps3ud0 :cool:

I_M_Weasel · 2 Apr 2011 at 11:12

Watched the killer years last night, quite a difference from the F1 I've watched where you fully expect to see the driver get out of the car no matter how big the crash is, crashes in those years are fireballs and no ones coming to save you.

alex24 · 2 Apr 2011 at 11:27

Saw these last year. Easy to forget just how dangerous F1 really was, and not that long ago either. It's really amazing how safe they've made it now. This is what Jackie Stewart said about his 1966 crash:

I lay trapped in the car for twenty-five minutes, unable to be moved. Graham and Bob Bondurant got me out using the spanners from a spectator's toolkit. There were no doctors and there was nowhere to put me. They in fact put me in the back of a van. Eventually an ambulance took me to a first aid spot near the control tower and I was left on a stretcher, on the floor, surrounded by cigarette ends. I was put into an ambulance with a police escort and the police escort lost the ambulance, and the ambulance didn't know how to get to Liège. At the time they thought I had a spinal injury. As it turned out, I wasn't seriously injured, but they didn't know that.

Stirling Moss, despite being forced to retire from a head injury (though he basically says it was because the accident made him think too much), thinks that danger was an important part of racing to him:

If it hadn't been dangerous, it wouldn't have been nearly as attractive to me - it is an important part of racing, like salt is to cooking.

Does it justify the loss of 3-4 drivers a year whilst he was racing? I certainly don't think so, but just goes to show how different a place the world is in 2011.

Duke · 2 Apr 2011 at 13:20

After watching F1 since the mid 90s, it is hard to really understand how they had such poor safety back in the early days. Not even having basic marshalling, medical staff and equipment etc.

joem1983 · 2 Apr 2011 at 13:23

We're lucky we didnt have to watch it during those years. It's amazing to think of the complete lack of thought towards safety.

Horrible seeing those people burn to death. Some People look back on the good old days with rose tinted glasses. It's a sport, not war. You may have expected to die as a driver back then, doesnt make it right though.

That clip of the guy stalling at the start and you just thinking oh ****. That's the end for him or someone behind or both as the back of the field is doing over 100 by then...

DBT85 · 3 Apr 2011 at 10:17

Just watched the Killer Years. Its really chilling to see some of those images, to see drivers driving past a car burning on the track. When you then look at the flip Mark Webber had an realise he got up and walked out unharmed you see just how much had been done in the intervening years.

Could have easily watched that doco for 2 hours.

Glaucus · 3 Apr 2011 at 19:10

Bit late but another one on now "flying Scotsman"

DOCUMENTARY: Jackie Stewart: The Flying Scot
On: BBC 2 South West (102)
Date: Sunday 3rd April 2011 (30 minutes left)
Time: 18:30 to 20:00 (1 hour and 30 minutes long)

Documentary about Sir Jackie Stewart, winner of three Formula 1 world championships and 27 grand prix, ranked as one of the ten greatest racing drivers of all time, as well as being an icon of the 1960s and 70s era of style, glamour and speed. The film is an insight into the triumphs and tragedies of Stewart's eventful life, and includes contributions from friends and colleagues such as Niki Lauda, Emerson Fittipaldi, Sean Connery, Murray Walker, Edsel Ford and the late Ken Tyrrell.
(Stereo, Repeat, Widescreen, Subtitles)
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Excerpt taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide available from http://www.getdigiguide.tv/?p=1&r=158980

Copyright (c) GipsyMedia Limited.

joem1983 · 3 Apr 2011 at 21:56

Todge said:
Just watched the Killer Years. Its really chilling to see some of those images, to see drivers driving past a car burning on the track. When you then look at the flip Mark Webber had an realise he got up and walked out unharmed you see just how much had been done in the intervening years.

Could have easily watched that doco for 2 hours.

Robert Kubica 06 Montreal crash was way worse and he was fairly unharmed and that was a few years ago. Incredible to see how strong they are

PinkFloyd · 3 Apr 2011 at 22:01

Just watched the Killer Years. Very interesting program, forgot just how good cars in the 60s looked. Amazing how much the sport changed during that decade.

TaKeN · 3 Apr 2011 at 22:20

Thanks for the links, I watched the killer years yesterday, very moving stuff. I now have lots of respect for drivers of that era, I simply didn't realise how dangerous the sport was, and how many of them were killed.

Quite shocking to see how they didn't really mind that much either, it was just acceptable to leave a man to burn to death in his car.

DBT85 · 4 Apr 2011 at 08:27

joem1983 said:
Robert Kubica 06 Montreal crash was way worse and he was fairly unharmed and that was a few years ago. Incredible to see how strong they are

Ahh just watched it and your right! I'd lost interest in F1 at that point so I never saw it.

To think that they never even wore seatbelts.

Also, the killer years kind of portrays Chapman as a genius but also utterly ruthless until the later years. I can only imagine what kind of carnage we would have seen if he and someone like Newey had been in the same team back then.

The other side of it is that we are now so used to seeing drivers get up and walk out of horrendous crashes that when someone eventually dies again its going to be a massive shock.