Forty something ex gym rat starts all over again

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Hi there. This is the ongoing tale for your amusement of a fortysomething going back into the gym for the first time in ten years. Your encouragement and advice is all I ask in return!

Context
So I used to be a super fit gymnast - in my teens, so an awful long time ago now. I had a good bodytype match for this kind of thing - short limbs, larger upper body, much stronger than my size (light frame), well co-ordinated with highly tuned ability to adjust and learn technique. Loved the rings and pommel horse as well as being able to fling myself off things and land on my feet. This meant that I was also good at high board diving which is pretty typical.

As my teens faded into early 20's I got into the gym and was attracted to the high intensity Mike Mentzer type stuff. It seemed to make sense intellectually and more importantly I'm much better suited to short sharp effort (fast twitch I guess) and heal I suspect slower than most (or have a tendency to cry off another session until DOMS has gone!).

Career and starting a family got in the way but I finally managed to get into the gym again by the time I was in my early 30's. At that time I had only gained about 2 " on my waist and wasn't in too bad shape. Sadly that was ten years ago and the transition from 30's to 40's has brought another 2" on the waist dammit, and a variety of aches and pains seemingly out of nowhere but in all honesty can only be down to posture and lifestyle etc.

Bringing us to now
Last year I had problems with stiffness in my back. Obviously the NHS were not interested in this but did conclude there wasn't anything ripped, torn or slipped. I saw a private physio who recommended some stretching and strengthening exercises and that in combination with some anti- inflammatory pills did the trick. Being a typical guy once the pain had gone I let the discipline and routine go by the wayside and it of course returned with a vengeance. I've got back into the routine and now decided I will use this as prompt to get back into the gym and get stronger and fitter.

Easing back in
Doing a bit of research I have been attracted to the Stronglifts/ 5x5 approach as I've always liked two key aspects of this - technically rewarding compound exercises, and continuous incremental growth.

However I'm not confident that I have the basic foundation of fitness and particularly core strength to do this justice at the minute. I've joined a local gym on a temporary basis as its okay but doesn't have the facilities I'm ideally after (olympic bars etc).

My short term priorities for the first 3 months are -
  • Build up core strength
  • Re-learn movements and focus on good technique
  • Lose some fat

I'm 5'8" and weighed in at 12st 8lbs. I think my bodyfat is about 20% (used to be single digits boo hoo). If I could shed a pound a week for those initial 12 weeks I would be very happy.

My key concerns are protecting my back, avoiding injury and over training which will lead to being too sore to train and then sap my motivation. I cannot emphasise this enough - it has blighted my attempts to make consistent gains before (the overtraining).


Initial routine
The initial chat with the trainer at the gym went well and he appeared to really listen to what I was looking to achieve and my own concerns about my starting condition.

The basis is to train 3 times per week and perform the following routine each session. We had one session together to teach and check technique and tonight is my first proper session. In these early ones I'll be focusing on technique and listening to how my body reacts rather than intensity and volume.

1. Deadlifts (pulley) 5 reps (1-2 sets)
2. Hammer grip pull ups 5 reps (2-3 sets)
3. Palloff press 5 reps (2-3 sets)
4. Bulgarian squats 5 reps (2-3 sets)
5. OHP 5 reps (2-3 sets)
6. DB rows 5 reps (2-3 sets)
7. DB bench press 5 reps (2-3 sets)

My initial reaction is that's a lot of volume and more than I'm used to, but the counter is that its low reps and lowish 'training weight' to begin with. I need to do this again on Thursday or Friday, and then Sunday to complete my first week so I can't afford to let enthusiasm lead me astray into using too much weight too soon.

Diet etc
I've been a vegetarian for best part of 25 years now. I can cook and understand how to get a balanced diet. The problem is that the calorific volume has not matched my sedentary work/ lifestyle so hence the creeping waistline.

My big weakness (no surprise here!) is wine and beer. I know they are empty calories but the stress of my job has meant I've slipped into the habit of relying on them to unwind in the evening. My first decision has been to not drink anything on a weekday and limit what I consume on Friday evening, with no booze on the weekend.

I've used protein drinks before and they can be integrated into the calorific total - previouslyI tended to find them most effective post workout. Not used creatine before and would not consider it until I have the first 3 months under my belt as a baseline to evaluate its effectiveness thereafter.

So
Initially I'd appreciate sage advice whether you feel I'm headed in roughly the right direction. Some motivational encouragement is always welcome!

Watch this space...
 
Good work!

Whilst I applaud your attempts to protect your back, playing with deadlifts and not squatting is an unusual choice.

But massive props for putting in the Bulgarian split squats: you do realise these will certainly "lead to being too sore to train...?" :D

Also, I had horrific back pain for years and finally saw a sports physio about it. I was diagnosed as being a weakling with no core strength, with a prescription of heavy lifting and core work to fix i. And - lo and behold - it did. To the point that - if I don't lift for a few days - I get a stiff back. :)

The routine looks fine, but if you're concerned about lower back, I'd be VERY careful with your OHP as this can be pretty nasty if you can't control your core.

Dealing with booze will help a number of things, so good work on cutting this down/out (eventually!) :D

Regardless, welcome, and enjoy it. :)
 
Okay so just got back after a decent session, took precisely one hour from warm up to cool down and out.

Mrthingyx you're not wrong about those Bulgarian squats - I walked out very gingerly and my legs are now on fire and very wobbly - they are gonna hurt tomorrow :eek:

Thanks for the advice on OHP. I made a point of using DBs and getting my legs and abdomen in a nice tight grip before repping.

Lets see if I can heal up by Thursday - I doubt it but have Friday as my fall back.

Feels good to make a start - usually the hardest thing is making the decision to do something, but having balanced on one leg trying to push out the B Squats I'm not so sure ;)
 
Next day report - quads are really sore and I walk up and down stairs with some effort like a tip toe-ing cowboy!

There's no way I'm going to be ready to go again tomorrow.
 
Next day report - quads are really sore and I walk up and down stairs with some effort like a tip toe-ing cowboy!

There's no way I'm going to be ready to go again tomorrow.

You;d be surprised how quickly DOMS eases off when you work through it, don't use it as an excuse.
 
Interested in your starting weights and planned progresson plan - add 2.5 or 5 kg to each exercise each week? If you want to split it up, you could clearly go for a pull / push or pull / push / legs split with the exercises there which would fit nicely into a 3 day a week setup
 
You;d be surprised how quickly DOMS eases off when you work through it, don't use it as an excuse.

Yes you're right and that has always been a weak spot for me in the past. I'm thinking of doing some light cardio tomorrow to see if I can loosen things up and then train again Friday.

Interested in your starting weights and planned progresson plan - add 2.5 or 5 kg to each exercise each week? If you want to split it up, you could clearly go for a pull / push or pull / push / legs split with the exercises there which would fit nicely into a 3 day a week setup

So starting weights are intentionally moderately 'easy' just to get back into the groove, remember/ learn the movement and build up a base.

1. Deadlifts (pulley) 5 reps (1-2 sets) = 40kg (too light!)
2. Hammer grip pull ups 5 reps (2-3 sets) = bodyweight (too heavy!)
3. Palloff press 5 reps (2-3 sets) = 12.5kg each side
4. Bulgarian squats 5 reps (2-3 sets) = 20kg (struggling with the balance and technique right now)
5. OHP 5 reps (2-3 sets) = 28kg
6. DB rows 5 reps (2-3 sets) = 18kg each side
7. DB bench press 5 reps (2-3 sets) = 36kg

As for progression, at the moment I'm trying to restrain my enthusiasm to add too much too soon as I'm pretty out of shape and I do think I heal slowly - if I can't train I'll lose momentum at this early stage. At the moment I'm trying to learn the movements and get a reference for the kinds of starting weight to use before adding increments.

Where I struggled in the past is getting small enough increments so that my body can handle and adapt to it without getting discouraged. I remember in the past that I used to take in my own 0.5kg and 1kg plates with me so that I could get small but continuous progress week on week. The gym I've joined for now uses fixed DB and BB's so after about 3 months I'll be hopefully a bit leaner, a bit fitter and can then move towards a 5x5 type programme somewhere they have power racks and bars and plates etc.
 
I'm no expert at all (other already chiming in are much stronger and more experienced than me) but I completely support the start slow idea. If you add 5kg a week to DLs you'll add 80kg by Christmas - 2.5 kg on Bulgarians would be 60kg. Both seem like decent numbers to me. I follow the Starting Strength plan at the moment which is pretty simple - do 3x5 at a weight then add 2.5 next time. Keep the progression going nicely
 
Chicken is appropriate - still hobbling around on mashed legs like a complete bloody wuss!

Have tomorrow off so will be up early trying to loosen up and then head into the gym for a rematch. Will need to back off on the Bulgarians though - heading away this weekend in the camper so can't afford to be hobbling about.

With any luck I'll then be back in again Monday or Tuesday.
 
Okay so this is the aforementioned Tuesday. Fully refreshed after a weekend away.

1. Deadlifts (Barbell) 5 reps (3sets) = 50kg (still too light!)
2. Pulldowns (close grip) 5 reps (3 sets) 40kg (too light)
3. Palloff press 5 reps (3 sets) = 15kg each side
4. Bulgarian squats 5 reps (1 set) = 20kg (backed off because I want to train again Weds)
5. OHP 5 reps (3 sets) =28kg
6. DB row 5 reps (3 sets) = 18kg each
7. DB bench press 5 reps (3 sets) = 36kg (bit too easy)

Feeling a bit more 'in the groove' as I relearn forgotten movements. Still taking it steady and not rushing to add weight, in some cases its too light but I'm creeping it up slowly.

Have this week off so will be able to get in and do light cardio on off days and have a swim etc. Would like to make a dent in this 12 -14 pounds I'm trying to lose!
 
Plenty of energy and enthusiasm today. Also got Ming Chews book and like the feel of the spine stretches.

Anyway -

1. Deadlifts (Barbell) 5 reps (3sets) = 60kg
2. Hammer grip pull ups 4/2/1 reps
3. Palloff press 5 reps (3 sets) = 15kg each side
4. Bulgarian squats 5 reps (2 sets) = 20kg
5. OHP 5 reps (3 sets) =28kg
6. DB row 5 reps (3 sets) = 18kg each
7. DB bench press 5 reps (3 sets) = 36kg

Started on the sour cherry juice as well.
 
So at the end of the first two weeks back in the gym there is good news and bad news:

The good;
- I've lost 2.5 pounds
- I've found a gym nearby which has tons of power racks and olympic lifting equipment

The bad;
- I had a bf measurement and its 25% :eek:

So my goal to lose a pound a week is starting off okay, but its going to be a long road to get the bodyfat down to 10%...
 
Losing 0.5-1% of total body weight per week is what a lot of the evidence-based coaches advocate these days as far as a 'safe' range goes (as most of us aren't either carrying elite genes that will spare muscle on harsher deficits or are on da j00ce), so starting off at 25% I'd imagine you can get away with more than 1lb a week to begin with. :)
 
Yeah 25% means I looking to lose 15% of 79kg = 11.85kg or about 29 pounds. A 1% loss per week is approx 2 pounds. I guess that may be easier to begin with and get progressively harder!

Looks like as I'm going to have to really watch the calories quite closely. Any good apps for calculating and tracking daily cals?
 
Yeah 25% means I looking to lose 15% of 79kg = 11.85kg or about 29 pounds. A 1% loss per week is approx 2 pounds. I guess that may be easier to begin with and get progressively harder!

Looks like as I'm going to have to really watch the calories quite closely. Any good apps for calculating and tracking daily cals?

http://iifym.com/iifym-calculator/ - calculator to get a ROUGH idea of where to start.

MyFitnessPal app to track your protein/carb/fat intake (purely counting calories is mehhhh):

 
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