Free Usenet

Kol · 14 Dec 2006 at 18:00

dmpoole said:
If you're on a limit then you want to download the least you can.
You can easily waste over 700 meg on some downloads if you download all the PARs for no reason.

Good point, I never really thought about the limit. If I do sign up for a limited service, I'll take that into consideration. Cheers.

SexyGreyFox · 15 Dec 2006 at 07:08

fornowagain said:
Actually if only 4 blocks were missing then you only needed PARs +1 & +3. You downloaded 6 blocks.

Once again thanks for that.
I've just had 48 blocks missing and one file was 49 blocks in size.
Another download had 6 blocks missing so I chose the 4 and 2.

Excellent.

Locky · 15 Dec 2006 at 16:26

what is so good about "usenet"

how do you use it.

what can you do with it?

I have no clue at all

fornowagain · 15 Dec 2006 at 16:33

TiZoR said:
what is so good about "usenet"

how do you use it.

what can you do with it?

I have no clue at all

Have you read the thread?

Locky · 15 Dec 2006 at 16:48

yes and i still dont really understand

o well i wont bother

Kol · 15 Dec 2006 at 18:19

TiZoR said:
yes and i still dont really understand

o well i wont bother

Your exact question has already been asked and dmpoole, amongst others, did a good job of explaining it.

Ice Tea · 16 Dec 2006 at 03:19

ferret face said:
This free Usenet doesn't work, so don't waste your time

Ferret

It didn't work for me either until i used copy and paste on the info , so i must have had a typo.

working fine now.

Display name : news.easynews.nl
Server Address : news.easynews.nl
login : [email protected]
password : beta

no_1_dave · 16 Dec 2006 at 11:51

TiZoR said:
what is so good about "usenet"

how do you use it.

what can you do with it?

I have no clue at all

You can download from usenet the same stuff you can download with torrents, only there is a lot lot lot lot lot more stuff on usenet & downloads max out your connection as soon as you hit "connect".

A[L]C · 18 Dec 2006 at 16:08

Seems like a good system, just a lot harder to get in to that torrents :S

Personally I use ftp

Kol · 18 Dec 2006 at 16:36

Used ot use FTP, however, apparantly NNTP is not monitored nor can it be as easily as FTP/HTTP could be. Mind you, I maybe entirely wrong bu what I get from NNTP isn't much of a deal.

FTP can be good, but usenet/NNTP is generally larger in my experience not only that but the speeds are usually more reliable. However, I'm sure for a few quid a month you can get some fairly decent servers.

You on BST-S?

edit - pricewise, Usenet is much cheaper. If I wished to max out my 10Mb connection, I would cost me a LOT more than £10/mthfor FTP. Most of them are looking for anything upto £80/Mth for 10Mb speeds!

SexyGreyFox · 18 Dec 2006 at 16:48

Mikol said:
Mind you, I maybe entirely wrong bu what I get from NNTP isn't much of a deal.

Boy are you wrong.

Kol · 18 Dec 2006 at 16:52

dmpoole said:
Boy are you wrong.

I meant in terms of legalities

What I download from NNTP isn't against the rules, so to speak. Unless you're talking in terms of monitoring, which in the contracts say they're not monitored in which case :eek:

good job I'm on the right side of the law then

Vicar · 18 Dec 2006 at 22:17

dmpoole said:
Tob3z

It could be when you download the Headers that they go all over the place like in picture 1 Picture 1

Click on the SUBJECT (marked in RED) and they should all go in order like picture 2 Picture 2

Now look at the files.
If you download the NZB file you can then load it into your newsreader and all the files will be put there for you.
Otherwise count the RAR files and if you look you can see that RAR 28 is smaller than the other 27. This is normally a giveaway that all the files are there because the last one is always smaller. Count them up and make sure all 28 are there and download.

Now lets imagine RAR 15 is missing.
Download the PAR2 file at the top and download.
Also download Quickpar and install. http://www.quickpar.org.uk/Download.htm
Double click the PAR2 file and you will see this - Picture 3
You can see that the RAR 15 is missing and Quickpar is telling you that 4 blocks are needed.
Downloading the first 3 PAR files now makes this magic happen - Picture 4

One of the finest posts about newsgroups without putting too fine a point on it.....

Been using Newsgroups for around 4 years and I still think I am newstart on it....

A[L]C · 19 Dec 2006 at 08:21

Mikol said:
Used ot use FTP, however, apparantly NNTP is not monitored nor can it be as easily as FTP/HTTP could be. Mind you, I maybe entirely wrong bu what I get from NNTP isn't much of a deal.

FTP can be good, but usenet/NNTP is generally larger in my experience not only that but the speeds are usually more reliable. However, I'm sure for a few quid a month you can get some fairly decent servers.

You on BST-S?

edit - pricewise, Usenet is much cheaper. If I wished to max out my 10Mb connection, I would cost me a LOT more than £10/mthfor FTP. Most of them are looking for anything upto £80/Mth for 10Mb speeds!

yeah I am on BST

So who do ppl use as their provider?

Kol · 19 Dec 2006 at 17:32

At present, thundernews. So far (fingers crossed) I've not come across many incompletes (those that I have, I have had the pars for) and speed is consistently maxing out my 10Mb in Notts and I'm currently here in Leics maxing out my old mans 4Mb (not concurrently obviously!).

For *** I was using some free sites but decided to add some credit to my ******* account (half price, 12p week before the 27th December) and changed the retention to ~90days and this has opened up a wealth of information for me

Thundernews say retention is upto ~81days+ which is sufficient for me. The only reason I used these guys was solely because I refuse to get a credit card and from those that allow me to pay via debit/paypal, this was the best one and the verdict so far is AWESOME

dmpoole uses newshosting I believe? It maybe further up in the thread but I'm in a rush. If you need to ask any questions, I'm sure myself or dm (amongst others in this thread) will be able to help out.

fornowagain · 19 Dec 2006 at 19:04

Mikol said:
Used ot use FTP, however, apparantly NNTP is not monitored nor can it be as easily as FTP/HTTP could be. Mind you, I maybe entirely wrong bu what I get from NNTP isn't much of a deal.

NNTP port 119 is not secure (see port 563), wide open, along the entire route. File headers are also logged at the ISP. And the PTB's are very much monitoring newsgroups and especially indexing sites. Indexing sites log IP's, some even ask for a name & address.

Supercow · 20 Dec 2006 at 21:13

Can anyone reccomend a good reader?
Used newsleechers before, but would like one with a nicer searcgh function, without having to pay for another listing site

Kol · 20 Dec 2006 at 23:24

NewsRover? I believe that may have the feature. My provider offers this reader free and it mentions a search function, but I'm happy using newsleecher for it's pure simplicity.

Supercow · 21 Dec 2006 at 10:00

Roaaar, found the best reader ever!!
Newsbin (not to be confused with Newzbin) rocks my socks! Utalises dual core, unrar's automatically, and within a couple of seconds (took 2 secs to unrar a 1.5 gb file!!)
I'm well happy!

Kol · 21 Dec 2006 at 15:32

Is that Newsbin Pro? I may have to have a look at that. Granted my lappy is much slower, but automatically unrarring could save a lot of time. Would be cool if it could automatically repair using pars too, then unrar, all without intervention.

edit - I see newsbin are hoping to integrate the repair feature at some point. That would be awesome.