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From 5820K to...?

Soldato
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Now that the new B550 boards are upon us, I am looking to upgrade my gaming machine to a Ryzen based outfit.

So my question is: best processor for gaming? We're taking the likes of Horizon Zero Dawn, AC Odyssey/Origins, etc. I have an RX 590 GPU being used with Intel Core i7 5820K, 16GB DDR4 RAM on an MSI X99A SLI Plus mobo and a Corsair Hydro Series H100i AIO 240 cooler. I'm keeping the cooler as I bought the AM4 bracket from OcUK last month.

Should I go for the Ryzen 5 3600 or Ryzen 7 3700X? I'm not all that fussed about the new XT ranges seeing as they don't seem to offer a huge speed jump.

Many thanks in advance.
 
I have 3 SSDs (1x 500GB for OS, 2x 1TB for games). The CPU is, as far as I can tell, not overclocked. I think I did overclock at the beginning, then went back to stock. This probably happened after a BIOS update. Never had to overclock since. I only got the GPU last month to replace my RX 480. And I game at 1080p.

Also I plan to eventually get a 144Hz monitor. My current monitor is 120Hz but it's like nearly a decade old.
 
If no games or applications are taxing your current setup, I wouldn't both at this stage frankly. You might as well at least wait until the Zen 3 chips are released to see how much faster they're going to be over the current generation.

Makes sense. Definitely not getting any issues save for my CPU temps being around the 50 mark when idle. I've even reapplied thermal paste to see if that would help bring it down somewhat, but no bueno. Perhaps a new cooler may be needed? I have had the Corsair AIO for nearly 5 years now. Though I might just check the BIOS for voltage and such.
 
Did the RX480 die on you? Odd upgrade otherwise, was about 10%. Don't waste more money changing your CPU for playing games when the GPU is holding you back.

Nope. Didn't die on me. Just wouldn't fit in the new case I got. It got in the way of the AIO cooler in the side of the case. So that was the reason for the RX590. I'm in no position to get something like the 5700XT. At least not yet.
 
I would wait until Zen3 is released unless you can get a good price for the X99 parts you have,and get a cheaper upgrade to Zen2.

This was my plan. Get Zen 2 stuff, sell my X99 lot which can contribute towards to the Zen 2 range and given we know B550 and X570 will still support Zen 3, then I move to that at a later date.

But based on everyone's advice, I'll stick with what I have and see what the Zen 3 and possible new AMD GPUs bring either later this year or early 2021.
 
I would say wait till alder lake/ zen 4 when DDR5 and USB 4 hits mainstream desktop platforms. You will not notice any significant upgrades and lives to regret it later. Upgrade other components if you have the upgrade itch such as mouse/gpu/keyboard/monitor/sound system/headset.

Funnily enough, I have changed the case, the GPU, mouse and keyboard. The monitor definitely needs changing very soon. Headset I am still happy with.

Considering you already have 6 cores, changing to a Ryzen 5 3600 which also has 6 core won't make any difference.

8 or 12 cores will make a difference but only in applications that will use 8 or 12 cores.

That's why I also mentioned the Ryzen 7 3700X. But if I am definitely not going to see that much of a difference in terms of performance, then I will stick with my current crop and wait a little while longer.
 
Wow, I'm impressed to see there's still some others using a 5820K! Though mine is nowhere near as overclocked as others. I just did a minimal increase from it's base 3.3GHz to 3.8GHz.

Although I am trying to figure out why everyone is advising I get a newer GPU than the RX590? I only bought it last month! Lol. Fair enough it's not exactly new tech. But it'll tide me over til AMD release whatever they plan to release after the RX5000 range. And it's been totally fine with the games I have played on it: Star Wars Fallen Jedi Order, Modern Warfare, Battlefront II, etc. Even had them on max settings.
 
5820K is still a perfectly capable gaming chip, especially at 1440p and 4k. Whilst others were buying 6600k and 6700k or the 4690k and 4790k, some of us purchased the 5820K for more future proofing if you may say. The only downside is we have to wait a fair bit longer before we can see some significant gains. However someone using a 4 core non HT like the 4690k or 6600k would see a good gains by upgrading to a 3600 or 3700x. The same could not be said for us. Most games are using 6 cores right now, it will take a few years before we see the majority of the games using 8/10 cores.

Solidly put, my friend. Really does explain it all. Yeah, I bought the 5820K as an upgrade from the famed i7 920 (D0). What a chip that was! But clearly there's still more years in this CPU I have now, so I will stick with it for a while longer.
 
So what sort of temps are people getting with these 5820K CPUs? Especially those who have overclocked to 4.5GHz? I stated earlier I gave mine a clean and I am using Noctua NF-H1 thermal paste with a Corsair Hydro 100i 240 AIO cooler. And I am seeing idle temps of around 40-50c. Just curious to see what others have.
 
Well I wasn't expecting more people to give their opinions regarding the 5820K. But it's good to hear what others are experiencing.

Question: And don't all bully me for this. Lol. I want to eventually change the RAM in my gaming machine. I currently have TeamGroup Elite 16GB (4x4GB) DDR4 PC4-19200C16 2400MHz Quad Channel Kit. What would be the ideal replacement for these in an RGB format? The motherboard I am using is an MSI X99A SLI Plus.

My gaming machine has undergone some changes recently. I have gone from non-RGB to RGB but mainly on the fans. Like I said, don't all bully me for this. :D
 
You can use any RGB memory with x99 however compatibility is sketchy at best , i ran my Gskill Trident RGB 3200mhz on my Rampage V board without issues but the software doesn't play well with others , you need to enable Speed write in the bios to get the Rgb to work and that in itself can be risky, for example the Tactical Tracer rgb ram works fine with Asus Aura but the proprietary software won't work at all on x99 so you don't get full addressable control

Thanks. I will bear that in mind. I had seen someone on Reddit use the Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB on their x99 and it looks at though it worked fine using the iCUE software.

I bought such RAM a couple of months ago for a new build I did for myself but I sent them back due to not allowing clearance for my AIO cooler. Now I wish I had kept them if I knew they could be utilised in x99 systems. Hindsight and all that.
 
OP should buy a new top end GPU even at 1080p if he wants more performance, anything else is a waste of £/$.

So I keep being told. But I am fine with the RX 590 as it can still play the latest games at 1080p and most with settings maxed out. I'll wait for the new AMD Zen 3 CPUs and see what we get in the GPU department from them. Also the 590 cost me £170.
 
Ok revisiting this thread after the news of the Zen 3 CPUs. I will wait a little while longer before I bite the bullet, but what you would recommend as the ideal upgrade from an ageing 5802K? I was leaning towards the Ryzen 7 5800X.
 
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