FTTC & Powerline bridge

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Hi All,

I'm hoping to look into getting FTTC (fibre) from BT in the New Year. I understand that BT have to replace the fascia of your master socket with a new sffp faceplate, which includes the normal BT socket for the phone, and then a filtered RJ45 (or possibly RJ11) connection at the top. I then understand that you connect a cat5 cable from the top of the sffp face plate to a BT branded "modem", which in turn presents out on RJ45 (Cat5e) to your PPPoE router (which needs an RJ45 WAN port).

Unfortunatly for me, I have to have my current ADSL router upstairs on an extension socket (the master socket is downstairs in living room). I understand BT can provide a 30M extension kit if required (which is basically a CAT5e cable from the master socket to the modem/router).

I can't really see how I can do this cable run in my house, so does anyone know if you could use powerline bridges (the units which run ethernet over your electrical ring main) to take the connection from the SFFP mastersocket direct to the modem and router which I would wish to still have upstairs OR maybe I would need to have the BT provided "modem" downstairs direct into the sffp main faceplate, and then run the RJ45 presented from the "modem" into the powerline, which could then connect up to me PPPoE router upstairs ?

Has anyone successfully used Powerline devices with the new FTTC technology ?

Thanks
 
My FTTC install has a RJ11 lead from the new faceplate to the VDSL modem - it's actually the same cable I used with my ADSL router.

The BT engineer who installed for me ran a new external cable and made what was an extension socket upstairs the master socket. He then used the old extension wiring to go back downstairs, making the old master an extension.

Would it work if the engineer did a similar thing for you?
 
Perosnally i wouldn't go with BT and their Fibre there are a few other providers which provide FIBRE!

ADSL24, TitanADSL and IdNet they seem to be pretty good.
 
My FTTC install has a RJ11 lead from the new faceplate to the VDSL modem - it's actually the same cable I used with my ADSL router.

The BT engineer who installed for me ran a new external cable and made what was an extension socket upstairs the master socket. He then used the old extension wiring to go back downstairs, making the old master an extension.

Would it work if the engineer did a similar thing for you?

Thanks for that info, that's not a bad idea at all :)

Will look more into that.
 
Ok I see that ISPs like Zen and others state the same exchange enable date for fttc for my exchange to be 31/12/10 which is what BT state, aren't other providers just piggy backing onto BT then ?
 
Yes - they use the services of BT Wholesale / Openreach but use their own core network beyond the local exchange / node.

My FTTC is with Enta.
 
I have had a look at various providers providing Fibre broadband and the only ones that can offer good value for money would be TitanADSL, Eclipse internet the rest of them seem to have low peak usage and costing wise seem higher for what you recieve.
 
Yes - they use the services of BT Wholesale / Openreach but use their own core network beyond the local exchange / node.

My FTTC is with Enta.

Problem with this though is your are still sharing BT's core from your local exchange to wherever Enta's POP is - which I believe is Birmingham for us guys in Worcester.

I was with Enta before on ADSL Max but the local BT pipe from my exchange was overloaded meaning web pages would load either terribly slowly or not at all during peak periods.

I since moved to Xilo who sold me their C&W wholesale product with a contention of 20:1 and C&W have their own dedicated pipe from my local exchange to their POP (probably owned and maintained by BT but dedicated for C&W).

I'm in same boat as Mortster and thinking of going FTTC but I'm worried about going back on the BT Wholesale network due to the issues I have had in the past. It's all well and good having 20MB+ to the exchange but if you are then sharing a congested pipe out of the exchange your in a whole world of pain.

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My Enta node is shown as Wolverhampton.

Obviously different nodes and exchanges get different results, but I've beeing 2 to 3MB/second on downloads today.

Edit... Just grabbed something from MS Technet and it's sat around 3300 to 3500 KB/second.
 
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