FTTP Install

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There is a high possibility that Openreach are laying FTTP in our area. But when it comes to installing in the house I have a few questions.

The fibre will come from an underground conduit (where the copper line comes in already). It goes to an external box Customer Splice Point (CSP) before going into the property and to the Optical Network Terminator (ONT).

The location our conduit is located means the fibre optic cable would enter a cupboard used to store damp coats additionally it is a high traffic cupboard, so not suitable for all the equipment, plus no power sockets.

Anyone have any first hand knowledge if Openreach will take the optical cable from the CSP externally up the front of the house and through an external wall into an office?

Or will the fibre optic need to enter the house at the bottom, then come back out of the wall and up the exterior?

These houses were built just before the FTTP rollout and the builders made no allowances and very poor choices as to the cabling layouts.

Cheers.
 
You probably won't get an external splice point as I think those only get put into new build properties to allow Openreach to get part of the installation done without accessing the home, a new install to an existing property is likely to just use a connectorized fibre.

I'm pretty sure there will be no issue having the cable run along the wall and through elsewhere, I haven't seen any suggestion that the cable has to enter where the current phone line does. Unfortunately you probably won't know until somebody shows up at your door and you get a chance to discuss it there, as there's no chance the person taking your order will be able to get that information passed along in any useful way.

Ah! I had heard of connectorized, sounds much simpler then, and presumably cheaper/faster to deploy. So it'll simply be like installing a copper cable, they'll drill through to a location and feed the cable through into the ONT. I wonder if they will do this on the second floor up a ladder?
 
Scrape your pennies together for next February - FTTP on Demand is going back to the old way of pricing the monthly rental:

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.p...-pricing-fttp-demand-ultrafast-broadband.html

I'll probably just got for an 80/20 package hopefully :) Openreach have been round the estate recently putting ropes through the underground conduits and making sure they're clear. Which they are thankfully.

Now I just need to figure out how to get the fibre to the upper floor. Whether to have everything pre drilled with conduit in place before the day it's installed or see what the openreach person says on the day.
 
So the FTTP infrastructure has been finished in my area, I have just placed an order for the 76/19 service. It looks like it will be the single stage install with the connectorised fibre. We won't be using fibre voice access, so hopefully means no battery backup unit so just the ONT, and the copper landline will still remain active.

Still unsure on where to get it located, I'll try to get photos of the install when/if it goes through.
 
Cheers for the advice. The fibre may ed up running from the Openreach ducting under the front door, along some stones at the front of the house and round the corner to a suitable location. I was thinking of putting some conduit down to protect from lawnmower/strimmer.

It'll go a cm or so under some decorative chippings. Will 10mm internal diameter be fine? The fibre cable itself looks to be around 5mm or so according to pictures online.
 
Well all sorted. Was the Openreach engineers first install on his own so I was able to help out pulling cables etc. He took his time, after a few false starts with the connectorised FTTP he got it up and running.

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It came with a BBU (battery backup) although we don't have FVA (voice over fibre) so he said if I wanted to I could just remove it. The ONT and BBU are contained in a small enclosure now, rather than being mounted on the wall separately.

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Nicely done. Did you get the cable routed how you wanted it?

Yeah, I had buried some conduit a few weeks back, I just need to use some expanding foam/sealant now to block the tube.

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Weird to see such terrible speeds and ping from real fibre.

My Zen FTTC connection was better than that.

I only went for the 76/19 package, so it's only going to be that, they do 150/30 and 300/50 but way overkill for my needs. BBC pings at 10ms average and google pings at 11ms which isn't too bad. Not sure why they chose FTTP here rather than FTTC, all the other local cabinets nearby are FTTC, just this is a new build.
 
Did you order direct with BT for this?

I am due to move to a new build soon which has FTTP however the postcode doesnt show anywhere for it to be installed

Upgraded from ADSL with Zen, they were really good with communicating everything with the order. The order was placed 27th December, in mid January I got an update saying Openreach needed to do one last survey to make sure the network was installed and they had all details straight, then after that was confirmed the Openreach engineer came round today :)
 
That explains the speed but not the ping... are you on wireless maybe?

I’d expect an absolute maximum of 4ms ping to bbc, I get 2ms.

If you’re happy great - just might be some equipment getting in the way or an issue for it to be that high.

It’s Ethernet, but I am going :

ONT > Router > PC via internal Ethernet cabling. Would it be down to geographic location as well? Lancashire > London. Is there a way to determine latency on the LAN or at least at different stages of the connection?
 
Just did some testing from some client sites with leased lines in the Blackpool area & you're right... I'm seeing ~10ms ping to bbc & google.

I didn't think the variance would be so high within the same country... learnt something new :)

Sorry Vader, seems I was mistaken.

I'm getting 1ms to bbc today :/

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No problem! You have an awesome connection there! I wonder what the traceroute I have physically looks like, as in I'd love to be able to find out what route the data takes. I know where the cables roughly run to to get to the local exchange, but from there I have no idea where it goes.

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms www.routerlogin.com [192.168.0.1]
2 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms vt1.cor2.lond1.ptn.zen.net.uk [51.148.72.22]
3 11 ms 11 ms 13 ms ae-9.agg2.lond1.ptn.zen.net.uk [51.148.73.16]
4 14 ms 12 ms 12 ms 51-148-73-55.dsl.zen.co.uk [51.148.73.55]
5 11 ms 11 ms 10 ms ip81-59.fastly-gw1.lonap.net [5.57.81.59]
6 11 ms 10 ms 11 ms 151.101.0.81

Is my traceroute to BBC.
 
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