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Currently in my loop i have 2x 360x45mm rads, ek flt 80 with D5 pump, cpu waterblock and ram water block. I want to add vga waterblock to my 7900xtx nitro as it just chucks out way too much heat, if adding it to the same heat what sort of water temp increase can i expect?? this is important because of the ddr5 OC. Would i be better off adding a seperate set up just for the GPU?? or i could squeeze in another 360x30mm rad and would another pump help??? I dont run stock anything so max cooling is essential. Also thought about going external with an alphacool 1260xt45 but would prefer to keep costs down as much as poss. thoughts??
 
I'm not sure what temperatures you will get, but 2x 360x45mm is more than enough for a cpu and gpu, your ram probably generates about 15 to 20W per stick overclocked?? so not much compared to the cpu and gpu.

I run separate loops just because I have plenty spares, radiators, fans and etc.

I would just add the gpu to the loop and see how it goes, if you are not happy with the temperatures you can always add the extra radiator later, to make your life easier put a pair of quick disconnects where the extra radiator would be, so it will be easy to add it later.
 
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That's not a bad shout with the qdc's but I have to drain loop to install the VGA which is a pita it may just be easier in the long run to get it done
 
If your gpu chucks out too much heat
Adding it to a loop doesn't
Alter that
The heat still gets chucked out
By the radiators

Or did you mean gpu temperature
Is too high?

A 5950x and an 3080ti with 1 x 360mm x 44mm rad
And 1 x 360mm x 58mm radiator (push/pull)
My coolant temperature now is 28-30c
In summer 38-40c (gaming temperature)

The alphacool would be a good choice
If you're able to position it
Somewhere it's not dumping heat into the pc room
Unless your pc is in a room large enough
That amount of heat/watts especially in summer
Doesn't majorly increase room ambient
 
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If your gpu chucks out too much heat
Adding it to a loop doesn't
Alter that
The heat still gets chucked out
By the radiators

Or did you mean gpu temperature
Is too high?

A 5950x and an 3080ti with 1 x 360mm x 44mm rad
And 1 x 360mm x 58mm radiator (push/pull)
My coolant temperature now is 28-30c
In summer 38-40c (gaming temperature)

The alphacool would be a good choice
If you're able to position it
Somewhere it's not dumping heat into the pc room
Unless your pc is in a room large enough
That amount of heat/watts especially in summer
Doesn't majorly increase room ambient
gpu temp is ok i think for an 7900xtx but in an enclosed case everything gets hot because of it, under water the fans will push air out the case through the rads so within the case should be cooler even though the ambient temp will rise, just not so direct on the rest of the PC
 
gpu temp is ok i think for an 7900xtx but in an enclosed case everything gets hot because of it, under water the fans will push air out the case through the rads so within the case should be cooler even though the ambient temp will rise, just not so direct on the rest of the PC
Cheapest option
Just make sure theres plenty of
Airflow through the case

Next Cheapest option would be adding a gpu block

Next gpu block and another radiator

Next gpu block another radiator and a second pump
1 x d5 would be sufficient though
Only need 2 if separate loop for cpu and gpu
Or for redundancy if one pump fails

Most expensive option
Alphacool 1260 x 45 or x 60
Last I looked you could do the Alphacool 1260mm x 45mm
Plus a second pump and the other bits for
Under £300
Though that would be because could use fans
I already have
Not cheap but custom watercooling isn't nowadays
But the Alphacool is still way way cheaper than a mo-ra4

Though again would be ideal if could place it
Somewhere that gets the heat out the room
Down here in the sunny south east coast in summer
That's my biggest issue
Pc room temperature gets extremely hot
 
Cheapest option
Just make sure theres plenty of
Airflow through the case

Next Cheapest option would be adding a gpu block

Next gpu block and another radiator

Next gpu block another radiator and a second pump
1 x d5 would be sufficient though
Only need 2 if separate loop for cpu and gpu
Or for redundancy if one pump fails

Most expensive option
Alphacool 1260 x 45 or x 60
Last I looked you could do the Alphacool 1260mm x 45mm
Plus a second pump and the other bits for
Under £300
Though that would be because could use fans
I already have
Not cheap but custom watercooling isn't nowadays
But the Alphacool is still way way cheaper than a mo-ra4

Though again would be ideal if could place it
Somewhere that gets the heat out the room
Down here in the sunny south east coast in summer
That's my biggest issue
Pc room temperature gets extremely hot
another option i just thought of, as i have to strip down to install gpu block i could add some bulkhead(if you can still get them) QDC's and loop temporarily and if i want to add an external i can, would be mainly for benching purposes, rest of the time run system without for daily
 
Yeah can still get bulkhead qdc
Can even get a pcie slot cover that you can
Use for them rather than drill holes
Or just putting them
Through an empty space
Qdc are pretty expensive per pair nowadays
Unless you can get some in MM
Or get the plastic versions
Which an ocuk competitor has loads of
Don't think ocuk have those
 
Yeah can still get bulkhead qdc
Can even get a pcie slot cover that you can
Use for them rather than drill holes
Or just putting them
Through an empty space
Qdc are pretty expensive per pair nowadays
Unless you can get some in MM
Or get the plastic versions
Which an ocuk competitor has loads of
Don't think ocuk have those
any idea on how the barrow ones are?? look like you can get a pair for same price as a single koolance
 
any idea on how the barrow ones are?? look like you can get a pair for same price as a single koolance
Not actually tried them
But the alphacool ones are even less
A male and female bulkhead pair
Start just under a tenner
And work upwards from that price
Don't think can even get a female koolance
For that price

Called quick release instead of quick disconnect
On the ocuk competitor
Theres a large variety on there

They seem pretty similar to the plastic/nylon ones
You can use for aquariums
So can remove individual parts for maintenance
Of pumps, filters etc
 
Adding a GPU to your loop will increase the idle temperature of your CPU and everything else. Under load, as long you have enough rad area and cooling to keep the rads cool should be fine, but when I used 3 thick 360s, but had a 3090 (with active backplate), my CPU never stayed as cool as I managed using a AIO. Still cool enough, but the extra heat in the loop pushed the CPU temperature higher.
 
Adding a GPU to your loop will increase the idle temperature of your CPU and everything else. Under load, as long you have enough rad area and cooling to keep the rads cool should be fine, but when I used 3 thick 360s, but had a 3090 (with active backplate), my CPU never stayed as cool as I managed using a AIO. Still cool enough, but the extra heat in the loop pushed the CPU temperature higher.
this is what i thought and the memory is the most important factor as they are sensitive to heat and may lose stability. So ideal scenario is put gpu in its own loop??
 
Or put the ram on its own
Little loop?
Should be cheaper than a gpu block
And remove heat from the cpu
From the ram equation

Somewhere i have an Alphacool ddc with Little res
Runs off a fan header would work fine
For cooling some ram
 
Or put the ram on its own
Little loop?
Should be cheaper than a gpu block
And remove heat from the cpu
From the ram equation

Somewhere i have an Alphacool ddc with Little res
Runs off a fan header would work fine
For cooling some ram
rams ok with cpu, never had a problem with that. Already have GPU block on its way, so need to accommodate it. For Gaming other the ram, everything just runs stock but i enjoy a bit of benchmarking thats where better cooling comes into play, raised power limits on the xtx need water to be safe. Currently have a Lian li 011d dynamic, if all i did was game i would do like you said earlier and im sure it would be fine as is with the extra block. Now im thinking bigger case, seperate loop for gpu. So would need a pump/res with a small footprint, still need decent flow to get heat away quicker
 
I wonder if keeping one 360 for the CPU/RAM and one for the GPU will impact temperatures for the RAM. The idea of a small loop for the RAM is appealing.
 
Adding a GPU to your loop will increase the idle temperature of your CPU and everything else.
This isn't necessarily true in all cases. Assuming relatively normal parameters for such a system at idle with an acceptable flow rate I wouldn't except idle component temperatures to increase at all.

The thermal conductivity of the liquid will be fine and idle wattage isnt likely to come anywhere near to overcoming the ability for radiators to dissipate heat.

It's all inconsequential at idle anyway, especially if the fan profiles are dynamically configured against the fluid to ambient delta (as they should be really).

I wouldn't bother with a multi loop setup for what is a very vanilla custom loop configuration if temperature is the only consideration. If you are constantly changing GPU I can see the benefit of not needing to do a full drain and refill but otherwise it seems unecessarily complex.
 
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This isn't necessarily true in all cases. Assuming relatively normal parameters for such a system at idle with an acceptable flow rate I wouldn't except idle component temperatures to increase at all.

The thermal conductivity of the liquid will be fine and idle wattage isnt likely to come anywhere near to overcoming the ability for radiators to dissipate heat.

It's all inconsequential at idle anyway, especially if the fan profiles are dynamically configured against the fluid to ambient delta (as they should be really).

I wouldn't bother with a multi loop setup for what is a very vanilla custom loop configuration if temperature is the only consideration. If you are constantly changing GPU I can see the benefit of not needing to do a full drain and refill but otherwise it seems unecessarily complex.
Let assume his delta is 5C. Similar I managed using 3 x 360/45 rads. Adding the GPU, in idle, another 15-20W. Maybe 1C increase in delta. Under load, any Mid-high end GPU will dump another 200-300W in the loop. The question is how close his RAM is from throttling as it is now, as if coolant is at 40C, doesn’t mean the components being cooled will be close to it. GPUs, when good block and good contact is achieved tends to run closer to coolant temperature than CPUs and other components. If his actual coolant temperature is far from causing the RAM to throttle, adding the GPU should be fine. Just be aware that, even if the CPU won’t thermal throttle , it will idle at higher temperatures than now (despite the minimal increase from the GPU in the loop), and the temperature under load will be higher too, even if the loop is not struggling to cool everything. Dual loop can be a pain, extra cost for extra pump/reservoir, but isolating the CPU from the GPU will give you better temperature.
Just keep in mind that the best temperature is not the “needed” temperature.
My obsession with lower temperatures forced me to abandon water cooling as I spent more time/money changing parts than using the PC. It was my Lego.
The other consideration is loop order, as it won’t affect much, but I always used mine as pump/reservoir, bottom intake, GPU, top exhaust, CPU and back to pump/reservoir. Exhausting after the GPU helped the CPU slightly. Not a dealbreaker but as mentioned, obsession here. I was using thermal sensor before and after every radiator. In general won’t change a lot but was measurable.
Third Rad only needed if you want to lower your delta, when possible OFC. If delta is low already, and fans aren’t al high rpm, no point doing so.
 
Yeah it's really down to
Where do you draw the line
And what you want to achieve and of course
How much you have to spend

Could do cpu on one 360mm radiator
Gpu on another 360mm radiator
Ram on a 120mm radiator
Each with a separate pump
But it all adds cost And complexity

And I only have ddr4
So not sure what actual benefits you get
From overclocking your ddr5?
Just in benchmarks? Or actually in real life use?
 
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